Name |
John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR |
Birth |
10 Mar 1754 |
Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America [1, 2, 3] |
Christening |
10 Mar 1754 |
Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America [4, 5, 6, 7, 8] |
Gender |
Male |
Emigration |
Dutchess County, New York, United States [9] |
- John and his brother, Paul, "came originally from Dutchess county, NY, and are undoubtedly of Dutch extraction".
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Baptism sponsors |
10 Mar 1754 |
Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America [8] |
were Johannes Maul and wife Elisabeth Tromboor |
- Jones referenced the Loonenburg Lutheran Churchbook.
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Family |
10 Mar 1754 |
Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America [8] |
The baptism date conflicts with the baptism of sister Christina on May 26 1754 |
Politics |
Abt 1775 |
Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America [10] |
- He refused to sign "The Articles of the Association of Freeholders and Inhabitants of Ulster County, New York", and thus became a "Tory".
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Military |
1777 |
Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America [11] |
- In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "joined the British Army at New York in the year 1777, and in consequence suffered both in person and in property".
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John Trumpour petitioned for land on July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, microfilm c-2842 image 583. |
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John Trumpour's petition for additional land, July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, T bundle miscellaneous 1797-1843, petition 15, microfilm c-2842, image 583. |
Family |
Abt 1784 |
Upper Canada, Canada [11] |
- In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".
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John Trumpour petitioned for land on July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, microfilm c-2842 image 583. |
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John Trumpour's petition for additional land, July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, T bundle miscellaneous 1797-1843, petition 15, microfilm c-2842, image 583. |
Moved |
Abt 1784 |
Upper Canada, Canada [11] |
from Lower Canada |
- In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".
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John Trumpour petitioned for land on July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, microfilm c-2842 image 583. |
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John Trumpour's petition for additional land, July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, T bundle miscellaneous 1797-1843, petition 15, microfilm c-2842, image 583. |
Immigration |
1784 |
Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada [12, 13] |
- John settled at Green Point, Sophiasburgh. It is said that he "came up the Bay of Quinte past the home of his brother [Paul] who had already located at Adolphustown".
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Immigration |
1784 |
Lower Canada, Canada [11] |
from New York |
- In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".
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John Trumpour petitioned for land on July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, microfilm c-2842 image 583. |
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John Trumpour's petition for additional land, July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, T bundle miscellaneous 1797-1843, petition 15, microfilm c-2842, image 583. |
Immigration |
17 May 1784 |
Sorel, Lower Canada, Canada [13] |
- John was at Sorel with Simon Cole. They had written to their families in Ulster County to meet them at Skenesborough. They asked and received passes, permission, and men to help them go to Skenesborough and get their families.
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Residence |
Aft 1784 |
Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada [11] |
- In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had purchased a lot of land in the County of Prince Edward on which he now resides, and has made large improvement on the same".
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John Trumpour petitioned for land on July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, microfilm c-2842 image 583. |
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John Trumpour's petition for additional land, July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, T bundle miscellaneous 1797-1843, petition 15, microfilm c-2842, image 583. |
Baptismal sponsor |
1786 |
Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America [14] |
with his wife, Elizabeth Bohr, to a baptism in Katsbaan Church |
Burial |
Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada [15] |
in Roblin's Mills Cemetery |
- [Since there were approximately 9 tombstones and footstones in this cemetery that were illegible, John Trumpour and his wife could be buried there.]
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Burial |
Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada [16] |
in Top of the Hill Cemetery |
- John could be buried in the Top of the Hill cemetery. This burying ground "was located on County Road 15 (concession 1, SWGP, lot 40 (County Road 15) however nothing remains at the site. Permission was apparently received to build a house upon the property, and this still stands." The Wanamakers recorded 3 burials here. It is believed that the stones were transferred to Glenwood Cemetery, Picton.
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Loyalist |
1790 [17, 18] |
- John "of Sophiasburgh & Ameliasburgh" was listed as "A Loyalist within the British Lines at New York."
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Land grant |
24 Jan 1791 |
Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada [19] |
of lot 42 Concession 2 West of the Carrying Place, 200 acres |
Petition for land |
26 Jan 1791 |
Kingston, Frontenac County, Upper Canada, Canada [20] |
for land in Ninth Township |
- John petitioned for land as a Loyalist and asked for land in the Ninth Township [Murray Township?]. He said that he was "always firmly attached to the British Government and Constitution" and "has come to this settlement with a view to become an inhabitant of it".
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John Trumpour petitions for land on January 26, 1791. Upper Canada Land Petitions LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 511, T bundle miscellaneous 1788-1794, petition 45, microfilm c-2842, image 171. |
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John Trumpour's wrapper on his petition of January 26, 1791. Upper Canada Land Petitions LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 511, T bundle miscellaneous 1788-1794, petition 45, microfilm c-2842, image 172. |
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John Trumpour's petition - Peter Van Alstine's affidavit on January 25, 1791. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol 511, T bundle miscellaneous 1788-1794, petition 45, microfilm c-2842, image 173. |
Petition for land |
26 Jan 1791 |
Kingston, Frontenac County, Upper Canada, Canada [21] |
No. 497 |
- "John Trumpour, late of Esopus in the State of New York, prays to be admitted as a settler in this district and to have 200 acres of land assigned. He is brother to Paul Trumpour of Adolphus Town, settled under the Instructions of 1783 and, being otherwise a person of good character, a certificate is granted him for 200 acres and the oath of allegiance administered."
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Petition for land |
Jul 1797 |
Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada [22] |
for family lands and for ungranted lands |
- This was referred to in the petition by his son, John Trumpour Junior, in 1848 for the property in Murray Township.
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Petition for land |
10 Jul 1797 |
Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada [11] |
- John petitioned for more land as Lord Dorchester's bounty and 50 acres for each member of his family making up 600 acres. He included an affidavit from Peter Van Alstine, Justice of the Peace, saying that John had taken the Oath that the contents of the petition were "true in substance and matter of fact". The Committee replied that John had to "state the number of children which he had in this province previous to 1789".
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John Trumpour petitioned for land on July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, microfilm c-2842 image 583. |
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John Trumpour's petition - affidavit from Peter Van Alstine, July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, microfilm c-2842, part of image 584. |
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John Trumpour's petition for additional land, July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, T bundle miscellaneous 1797-1843, petition 15, microfilm c-2842, image 583. |
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John Trumpour's land petition wrapper, July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3 Vol. 512, T bundle, miscellaneous 1797-1843, petition 15, microfilm c-2842, image 584. |
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John Trumpour's petition for addtional land, July 10, 1797. Upper Canada Land Petitions, LAC RG1 L3, Vol. 512, T bundle, miscellaneous 1797-1843, petition 15, microfilm c-2842, part of image 584. |
Designation |
29 Jan 1807 |
Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada [23] |
as a "U. E. Loyalist" in the petition of his daughter, Tina Curlett, when applying for a land grant |
- Tina's petition says that "your petitioner is the daughter of John Trumpour Senr. of the Township of Sophiasburgh, a U. E. Loyalist".
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Death |
1810 |
Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada |
Burial |
1810 |
Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada |
Family history |
Abt 1812 |
Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada [24] |
- "The story is told that when Robert [Curlett] joined the American army his father-in-law, John Trumpour, a dedicated United Empire Loyalist, was so upset that he disowned the Curlett family and influenced the Government to expropriate Robert's land. To date, we have not been able to confirm or refute this story. However, circumstantial evidence tends to refute it. The four sons of Robert Emmet [Curlett] all stayed in the Green Point area. The second son, John [Curlett] lived on land close to where Robert's distillery was said to have been and on land owned by his grandfather."
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Land |
Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada [25] |
- "Green Point was formerly called Grassy Point. John Trumpour was the first settler there and kept a Public House, the first in the Township."
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Land petition |
- Richard Arless Flint found John Trumpour's petition for land in RG1, Manuscript Section, Public Archives of Canada, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, on November 17, 1971.
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Military |
Ulster County, New York, United States [6] |
- "He belonged to the 1st Regiment of Ulster Militia in the Revolutionary War (see Brink, History of Saugerties)."
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Name |
Haunts Trumpour [5] |
Name |
Horatio Trumpour [27] |
Name |
Johannes Trombauer [7, 28] |
Name |
Johannes Trumpour [8] |
Reference Number |
480.0 |
Religion |
- "At one time nearly all of the family [Trumpour] belonged to the Society of Friends".
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Residence |
Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada [29, 30] |
- John's house at Grassy Point was recorded in Hans Waltimeyer's diary in 1797 as being a place where people stayed and where the Militia trained annually. In 1799, Waltimeyer mentions that Grassy Point used to be an Indian village. "Even though Trumpour's house is here now, they still come occasionally to stay a while".
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- Married Elizabeth Baar (Beer, B?r) c. 1775
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- Trumpour. typewritten manuscript, no index; ref - Fidelity, volume 6, no 9. Check reference. Is this at Toronto Reference Library?
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- by E. Keith Fitzgerald; from OGS $ 25.00; ref: Fidelity, volume 22, no. 6, Sept 2000. This might be "Ontario People: 1796-1803". AFHS 971.3 FITZ
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- "Inventing the Loyalists: the Ontario Loyalist tradition and the creation of the usable pasts" by Norman Knowles. 244 pages. $ 18.95 plus $ 4.25 postage; Ref: Toronto Tree, volume 29, issue 4, July/August 1998. Copy at OGS Library, North York.
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- "New York Genealogical & Biographical Record". OGS Library has volumes 105 to 107; ref: Families, vol 17, no 1, 1978
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- FHL microfilm # 1,403,568 - Township Papers for Sophiasburgh - up to page 1305, and rest - # 1,403,569.
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- 3 volumes and Research Guide to Loyalist Ancestors. 1990. Check for Trumpour, Redner, Cole.
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- Ivy Trumpour is active with the Edmonton Branch U.E.L.A.C. Contacts are Cal or Vera Chisholm, Edmonton, 780-454-2635, vera@telusplanet.net. Ref: Relatively Speaking, Vol. 28, No. 4, November 2000, pages 4 and 5.
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- find land petition - proper source - add to Legacy
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- microfilm # 1630769. NAC # C-2833. Petition # T 6 / 23 - check T 6 / 3 too. March 17, 1804. John Trumpour UEL.
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- microfilm # 1630708. NAC # C-2484 ?. Petition # O 8 / 7. March 13, 1807. John Trumpour UEL, senior, in Sophiasburgh Township.
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- microfilm # 1630788. NAC # C-2956. Petition # W 14 / 18. April 1, 1824. John Trumpour [Trompour], in Sophiasburgh.
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- microfilm # 1630607. NAC # C-2050 ? Petition # H 14 / 159. June 22, 1825. John Trumpour UEL, in Sophiasburgh Township.
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- microfilm # 1630613. NAC # C-2097 ? Petition # H 22 / 20. October 10, 1839. John Trumpour UEL, deceased.
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- new "ue" pin. Buy at Branch Office.
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- Anglican Registers, 1787-1814 - St John's Church, Bath. Kingston, Ontario: Kingston Branch, OGS, 1980. R 929.37135 SAI. Ref: Chinook, Vol. 4, No. 4, Summer 1984. 105 pages. Authors: Loral & Mildred Wanamaker. "Part of ... publication (1976) called The Early Church Records of the Rev. John Langhorn and Rev. Robert McDowall." Catalogue: June 29, 2012.
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- Calgary Public Library, Central 4th Floor Humanities - reference. "An Annotated Nominal Roll of Butler's Rangers 1777-1784: with documentary sources" by William A. Smy. Friends of the Loyalist Collection at Brock University, 2004. 237 pages. ISBN: 0973538600 paperback. Catalogue: June 29, 2012.
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- John TRUMPOUR died sometime after 1811 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County.
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- See file folder in Trumpour files.
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- INDEX TO WILLS PROBATED: FRONTENAC COUNTY 1857-1973. Kingston, Kingston Branch, OGS, 1988. softcover, 160 pages. $22.00 from Kingston Branch. This was a "mammoth undertaking by volunteers over 10 years. The transcripts were taken from the original Abstract Indexes Register prior to their being moved from the Frontenac County Courthouse to the Archives of Ontario. Approx 18,000 names. Ref: Families, OGS, Volume 28, No. 1, 1989, page 56.
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- Lutheran papers from - re-read. In Quinte churches Lutheran.
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- book by George Schweitzer
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- Family History Library microfilm for Sophiasburgh to find any Quinte family land instruments. Put on Land Abstracts Database.
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4390B42F1F2F4200AD7BC96D9A441E9E3E92 |
Person ID |
I2323 |
Everyone |
Last Modified |
16 Dec 2018 |