Susan Matilda TRUMPOUR

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Susie Trumpour
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• _UID: 80A99329044D4F53AF91C4AA1D0926E5B79F
• Birth: Abt 1864, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada
• Birth: Abt 1864, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada
• Census: 1871, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada

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Marriage registration # 010379-88. FHL microfilm 1,870,222 #10130-14001. Prince Edward County. Susie married Walter McDonald on December 19, 1888 in Picton. See A00659.

Birth:
Since she was age 24 when she married on December 19, 1888, her birth year was calculated as circa 1864.

Census:
She was enumerated as age 6, born in Canada West, and a Disciple. She was living with his parents, her brothers, John, Gilbert, George, Frederick, Edward, and William, and her sister Mary, on lot 17 concession 1 (120 acres). Also living with them was John Cameron, age 18, who was born in Ireland.

Susan married Walter MCDONALD on 19 Dec 1888 in Picton, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada. Walter (son of Robert MCDONALD and Sarah) was born about 1865 in Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Samuel Trumpour
• Reference Number: 240.13
• Residence: Picton, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
• Will: Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; with reference numbers Book 9, Grant 7, Registration A178
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• _UID: 7A8BFD35E98646FDA6831B502F944551D6E5
• Residence: Abt 1864, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada
• Census: 1871, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
• Census: 1871, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
• Registered: 8 Aug 1872, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; the birth of his son, Philip Leslie Trumpour, with Registrar James S. Cairnduff
• Occupation: 8 Aug 1872, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; farmer
• Residence: 8 Aug 1872, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
• Residence: Abt 20 Jun 1873, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; when his daughter, Mary Elizabeth Trumpour, married David Smith Daynard
• Residence: Abt 1890, Picton, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
• Death registration: 21 Sep 1899, Picton, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; # 022016/99

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Residence:
Samuel and Harriet lived in Picton.

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Registration # 022016-99. Family History Library microfilm # 1,854,392: # 20999-26227 (10 - 13) 1899. He died September 21, 1899 in Picton. Index microfilm: Family History Library microfilm # 1,819,303.

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Samuel Solmes TRUMPOUR, died September 21, 1899. Picton # 1299 in 1900. FHL microfilm # 0,815,144. Reference: book 9, grant 7, registration A178. Hallowell Township. Index microfilm: Family History Library microfilm # 0,815,127.

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Samuel was in Athol Township, District 59, Subdistrict G, Division 2, page 6. See A00838. Photocopy this. Check name of first son - John?

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Archives of Ontario F 1722: Township of Athol fonds. Ref: Archeion website, April 7, 2007.

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Archives of Ontario F 1865: Town of Picton fonds. Ref: Archeion website, April 7, 2007.

Census:
Samuel was age 46, born in Ontario, a farmer, a member of the Church of England, and of "German" ethnic origin.

Census:
He was enumerated as age 46, born in Upper Canada, and a disciple. He was living with his wife, Harriet, his sons, John, Gilbert, George, Frederick, Edward and William, and his daughters, Mary and Susie, on lot 17 concession 1 (120 acres). Also living with them was John Cameron, age 18, who was born in Ireland.

Samuel married Harriet Melvina VAN DUSEN on 7 May 1850 in Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada. Harriet (daughter of Roswell VAN DUSEN and Phoebe GREELEY) was born on 20 Jan 1834 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; died on 21 Sep 1899. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Harriet M. Van Dusen
• Name: Harriet M. Vandusen
• Name: Harriet Trumpour
• Name: Harriet Vandusen
• Reference Number: 240.13*
• _UID: 5323D0E049B84B5497A930756A4CFC50ADC7
• Born: 1833
• Birth: 1834, Upper Canada, Canada
• Birth: Abt 1838, Upper Canada, Canada
• Census: 1871, Athol Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
• Death: Between 1878 and 1928
• Death: 1916

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Birth:
Since she was age 33 in the 1871 census, her birth year was calculated as circa 1838.

Census:
She was enumerated as age 33, born in Upper Canada, and a Disciple. She was living with her husband, Samuel, her sons, John, Gilbert, George, Frederick, Edward, and William, and her daughters, Mary and Susie, on lot 17 concession 1 (120 acres). Also living with them was John Cameron, age 18, who was born in Ireland.

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• Name: Johannes Trumpour
• Name: John Thompson
• Reference Number: 240.1
• Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
• Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
• Residence: Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
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• _UID: 5FB3A432E9DF481CAAC21012220F6B619F80
• Baptism: 30 Mar 1777, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; with his paternal grandparents, Johannes Trombor and his wife, Christine, as sponsors
• Petition for land: Abt 17 May 1798, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
• Occupation: Abt 1810, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
• Marriage witness: 11 Jan 1838, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; to the marriage of his daughter, Lydia Jane Trumpour, to David McDonald
• Land petition: 1840, Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; the Second Heir & Devisee Commission
• Family history: Jul 1840, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
• Petition for land: Jul 1840, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; to the Heir and Devisee Commission
• Petition for land: 16 Mar 1848, Picton, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; for Concession 9 lot 16 in Murray Township
• Residence: 16 Mar 1848, Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada

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John married a Miss Lazier and settled on the High Shore.

Residence:
John lived at Green (Grassy) Point, Sophiasburgh.

Residence:
John and his wife lived on the "High Shore".

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did John Trumpour have a land petition as SUE? Check index books to land. Check National Archives RG1 Manuscript Section.

Petition for land:
He petitioned as the son of John Trumpour UE Loyalist. He included a certification from John Howell, Clerk of the Peace, that said that he had taken the Oath of Allegiance. His petition was received June 6, 1798 and read in council on June 8, 1798. He was recommended for 200 acres with the warrant being issued on July 10, 1798.

Occupation:
Possibly it was John who kept the first public house in the Township.

Marriage witness:
[There were others named "John Trumpour" around at this time, but it was likely her father who was the witness.] The other marriage witness was William Stinson.

Land petition:
He was petitioning for his father's land grant of 200 acres lot 16 concession 9 in Murrary township, then in Newcastle District. The 12-page case file # 40-2360 of the Second Heir & Devisee Commission was from the Archives of Ontario MS 657 microfilm reel 67, microfilm copy made by the Family History Library # 1,314,447, digital file 8345265 with images of microfilm 1,314,447 on FamilySearch, not indexed. Accessed on January 9, 2019.

Family history:
John Trumpour Junior petitioned at this time for his father's land in Murray to the Heir and Devisee Committee - as his father's eldest son and heir-at-law.

Petition for land:
This was referred to in his petition in 1848 for the property in Murray Township.

Petition for land:
He petitioned to get the Patent for concession 9, lot 16 in Murray Township. He had been assigned this land as his father's heir at law and oldest son by the Heir and Devisee Commission in July 1840 in claim 349. Originally the lot had been awarded to his father John Trumpour in July 1797 as 200 acres of Family Land and 142 acres ungranted. However, neither John Senior or John Junior had made any improvements according to the inspection report of the local District Agent, so the Crown Land Department in Montreal decided that John should not get the land title. They were going to sell it to John B. McColl who had petitioned to buy the land.

Residence:
He lived here at the time he petitioned for the land in Murray Township.

John married Mary SOLMES. Mary (daughter of Nathaniel SOLMES and Lydia) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 240.1*
• Will: Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; with registration numbers Book 166, Grant 152, Registration 276
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• _UID: C0EFF10616124FA3A89E39AB41840F4D0B56

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Mary (Solmes) TRUMPOUR. Reference: book 166, grant 152, registration 276. Hallowell Township. Index microfilm: FHL microfilm # 0,815,127. Can't find this in yellow index.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Roswell Vandusen
• _UID: 879471CB23734682B1CD27D4803FC2B766A5
• Residence: 20 Jan 1834, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
• Residence: Abt 1839, Upper Canada, Canada
• Residence: Abt 1844, Canada West, Canada

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Residence:
His daughter, Harriet Melvina Van Dusen, was born on this date.

Roswell married Phoebe GREELEY. Phoebe and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Phoebe Vandusen
• _UID: 7C00B41814E641469DFEE4C87FC78A664687

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• Emigration: Dutchess County, New York, United States
• Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; in Roblin's Mills Cemetery
• Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; in Top of the Hill Cemetery
• Land: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
• Military: Ulster County, New York, United States
• Name: Haunts Trumpour
• Name: Horatio Trumpour
• Name: Johannes Trombauer
• Name: Johannes Trumpour
• Reference Number: 480.0
• Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
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• _UID: 4390B42F1F2F4200AD7BC96D9A441E9E3E92
• Baptism sponsors: 10 Mar 1754, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; were Johannes Maul and wife Elisabeth Tromboor
• Family: 10 Mar 1754, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; The baptism date conflicts with the baptism of sister Christina on May 26 1754
• Politics: Abt 1775, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
• Military: 1777, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
• Family: Abt 1784, Upper Canada, Canada
• Moved: Abt 1784, Upper Canada, Canada; from Lower Canada
• Immigration: 1784, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
• Immigration: 1784, Lower Canada, Canada; from New York
• Immigration: 17 May 1784, Sorel, Lower Canada, Canada
• Residence: Aft 1784, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
• Baptismal sponsor: 1786, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; with his wife, Elizabeth Bohr, to a baptism in Katsbaan Church
• Loyalist: 1790
• Land grant: 24 Jan 1791, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; of lot 42 Concession 2 West of the Carrying Place, 200 acres
• Petition for land: 26 Jan 1791, Kingston, Frontenac County, Upper Canada, Canada; for land in Ninth Township
• Petition for land: 26 Jan 1791, Kingston, Frontenac County, Upper Canada, Canada; No. 497
• Petition for land: Jul 1797, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; for family lands and for ungranted lands
• Petition for land: 10 Jul 1797, Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada
• Designation: 29 Jan 1807, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; as a "U. E. Loyalist" in the petition of his daughter, Tina Curlett, when applying for a land grant
• Family history: Abt 1812, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada

Notes:

The 'three daughters [of John] married James, Meyer, and Richard Osborne, respectively, and settled in Sophiasburgh".

Emigration:
John and his brother, Paul, "came originally from Dutchess county, NY, and are undoubtedly of Dutch extraction".

Military:
"He belonged to the 1st Regiment of Ulster Militia in the Revolutionary War (see Brink, History of Saugerties)."

Land petition:
Richard Arless Flint found John Trumpour's petition for land in RG1, Manuscript Section, Public Archives of Canada, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, on November 17, 1971.

Land:
"Green Point was formerly called Grassy Point. John Trumpour was the first settler there and kept a Public House, the first in the Township."

Burial:
[Since there were approximately 9 tombstones and footstones in this cemetery that were illegible, John Trumpour and his wife could be buried there.]

Burial:
John could be buried in the Top of the Hill cemetery. This burying ground "was located on County Road 15 (concession 1, SWGP, lot 40 (County Road 15) however nothing remains at the site. Permission was apparently received to build a house upon the property, and this still stands." The Wanamakers recorded 3 burials here. It is believed that the stones were transferred to Glenwood Cemetery, Picton.

Religion:
"At one time nearly all of the family [Trumpour] belonged to the Society of Friends".

Residence:
John's house at Grassy Point was recorded in Hans Waltimeyer's diary in 1797 as being a place where people stayed and where the Militia trained annually. In 1799, Waltimeyer mentions that Grassy Point used to be an Indian village. "Even though Trumpour's house is here now, they still come occasionally to stay a while".

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baptism c. 1754

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Married Elizabeth Baar (Beer, B?r) c. 1775

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Trumpour. typewritten manuscript, no index; ref - Fidelity, volume 6, no 9. Check reference. Is this at Toronto Reference Library?

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by E. Keith Fitzgerald; from OGS $ 25.00; ref: Fidelity, volume 22, no. 6, Sept 2000. This might be "Ontario People: 1796-1803". AFHS 971.3 FITZ

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"Inventing the Loyalists: the Ontario Loyalist tradition and the creation of the usable pasts" by Norman Knowles. 244 pages. $ 18.95 plus $ 4.25 postage; Ref: Toronto Tree, volume 29, issue 4, July/August 1998. Copy at OGS Library, North York.

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"New York Genealogical & Biographical Record". OGS Library has volumes 105 to 107; ref: Families, vol 17, no 1, 1978

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FHL microfilm # 1,403,568 - Township Papers for Sophiasburgh - up to page 1305, and rest - # 1,403,569.

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3 volumes and Research Guide to Loyalist Ancestors. 1990. Check for Trumpour, Redner, Cole.

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Ivy Trumpour is active with the Edmonton Branch U.E.L.A.C. Contacts are Cal or Vera Chisholm, Edmonton, 780-454-2635, vera@telusplanet.net. Ref: Relatively Speaking, Vol. 28, No. 4, November 2000, pages 4 and 5.

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find land petition - proper source - add to Legacy

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microfilm # 1630769. NAC # C-2833. Petition # T 6 / 23 - check T 6 / 3 too. March 17, 1804. John Trumpour UEL.

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microfilm # 1630708. NAC # C-2484 ?. Petition # O 8 / 7. March 13, 1807. John Trumpour UEL, senior, in Sophiasburgh Township.

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microfilm # 1630788. NAC # C-2956. Petition # W 14 / 18. April 1, 1824. John Trumpour [Trompour], in Sophiasburgh.

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microfilm # 1630607. NAC # C-2050 ? Petition # H 14 / 159. June 22, 1825. John Trumpour UEL, in Sophiasburgh Township.

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microfilm # 1630613. NAC # C-2097 ? Petition # H 22 / 20. October 10, 1839. John Trumpour UEL, deceased.

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new "ue" pin. Buy at Branch Office.

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Anglican Registers, 1787-1814 - St John's Church, Bath. Kingston, Ontario: Kingston Branch, OGS, 1980. R 929.37135 SAI. Ref: Chinook, Vol. 4, No. 4, Summer 1984. 105 pages. Authors: Loral & Mildred Wanamaker. "Part of ... publication (1976) called The Early Church Records of the Rev. John Langhorn and Rev. Robert McDowall." Catalogue: June 29, 2012.

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Calgary Public Library, Central 4th Floor Humanities - reference. "An Annotated Nominal Roll of Butler's Rangers 1777-1784: with documentary sources" by William A. Smy. Friends of the Loyalist Collection at Brock University, 2004. 237 pages. ISBN: 0973538600 paperback. Catalogue: June 29, 2012.

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John TRUMPOUR died sometime after 1811 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County.

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See file folder in Trumpour files.

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INDEX TO WILLS PROBATED: FRONTENAC COUNTY 1857-1973. Kingston, Kingston Branch, OGS, 1988. softcover, 160 pages. $22.00 from Kingston Branch. This was a "mammoth undertaking by volunteers over 10 years. The transcripts were taken from the original Abstract Indexes Register prior to their being moved from the Frontenac County Courthouse to the Archives of Ontario. Approx 18,000 names. Ref: Families, OGS, Volume 28, No. 1, 1989, page 56.

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Lutheran papers from - re-read. In Quinte churches Lutheran.

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book by George Schweitzer

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what is the call number?

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Family History Library microfilm for Sophiasburgh to find any Quinte family land instruments. Put on Land Abstracts Database.

Baptism sponsors:
Jones referenced the Loonenburg Lutheran Churchbook.

Politics:
He refused to sign "The Articles of the Association of Freeholders and Inhabitants of Ulster County, New York", and thus became a "Tory".

Military:
In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "joined the British Army at New York in the year 1777, and in consequence suffered both in person and in property".

Family:
In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

Moved:
In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

Immigration:
In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

Immigration:
John settled at Green Point, Sophiasburgh. It is said that he "came up the Bay of Quinte past the home of his brother [Paul] who had already located at Adolphustown".

Immigration:
John was at Sorel with Simon Cole. They had written to their families in Ulster County to meet them at Skenesborough. They asked and received passes, permission, and men to help them go to Skenesborough and get their families.

Residence:
In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had purchased a lot of land in the County of Prince Edward on which he now resides, and has made large improvement on the same".

Loyalist:
John "of Sophiasburgh & Ameliasburgh" was listed as "A Loyalist within the British Lines at New York."

Petition for land:
"John Trumpour, late of Esopus in the State of New York, prays to be admitted as a settler in this district and to have 200 acres of land assigned. He is brother to Paul Trumpour of Adolphus Town, settled under the Instructions of 1783 and, being otherwise a person of good character, a certificate is granted him for 200 acres and the oath of allegiance administered."

Petition for land:
John petitioned for land as a Loyalist and asked for land in the Ninth Township [Murray Township?]. He said that he was "always firmly attached to the British Government and Constitution" and "has come to this settlement with a view to become an inhabitant of it".

Petition for land:
This was referred to in the petition by his son, John Trumpour Junior, in 1848 for the property in Murray Township.

Petition for land:
John petitioned for more land as Lord Dorchester's bounty and 50 acres for each member of his family making up 600 acres. He included an affidavit from Peter Van Alstine, Justice of the Peace, saying that John had taken the Oath that the contents of the petition were "true in substance and matter of fact". The Committee replied that John had to "state the number of children which he had in this province previous to 1789".

Designation:
Tina's petition says that "your petitioner is the daughter of John Trumpour Senr. of the Township of Sophiasburgh, a U. E. Loyalist".

Family history:
"The story is told that when Robert [Curlett] joined the American army his father-in-law, John Trumpour, a dedicated United Empire Loyalist, was so upset that he disowned the Curlett family and influenced the Government to expropriate Robert's land. To date, we have not been able to confirm or refute this story. However, circumstantial evidence tends to refute it. The four sons of Robert Emmet [Curlett] all stayed in the Green Point area. The second son, John [Curlett] lived on land close to where Robert's distillery was said to have been and on land owned by his grandfather."

John married Elizabeth B?HR in 1773 in New York, British Colonies in America. Elizabeth (daughter of Hermannus B?R and Maria Eva) was born on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
• Name: Elisabetha B
• Name: Elisabetha Beer
• Name: Elizabeth Beer
• Name: Elizabeth Bohr
• Reference Number: 481.0
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• _UID: 355087E688174F6A818FC16F9FB1CDBE65C6
• Birth: 1756, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
• Baptism: 3 Mar 1757, Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America
• Birth: 3 Mar 1757, Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America

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Burial:
Elizabeth is likely buried at the Top of the Hill cemetery on concession 1, SWGP, lot 40. There are no longer any stones there.

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baptism c. 1756

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Elizabeth (Bahr) TRUMPOUR died sometime after 1800 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County.

Baptism:
The sponsors were Wilhelm and Christna Behr.

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Marriage:
"Several of the missing marriages were probably entered in some of the long-missing Reformed churchbooks started by Pastor Joh: Friederich Hager."

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: CEC505DFD2D34A14A014FC6136C14E3A0ACF
• Residence: Abt 1795, Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada

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Residence:
His son, Nathaniel Solmes, was born around this time.

Nathaniel married Lydia. Lydia and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Miss Ricketson
• _UID: 5F0DCA423AA640DE973CD3C8D35711C6E5B0

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Name:
[She may have been Lydia Ricketson.]