Family History Research: by Lorna Flint Laughton

John R. TRUMPOUR

Male Abt 1828 -


Generations:      Standard    |    Vertical    |    Compact    |    Box    |    Text    |    Ahnentafel    |    Fan Chart    |    Media

Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John R. TRUMPOUR was born about 1828 in Upper Canada, Canada (son of John TRUMPOUR and Mary SOLMES); was buried in Wellington, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Burial: Wellington, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; in Wellington Cemetery
    • Name: J. R. Trumpour
    • Name: Rickerson Trumpour
    • Name: Ricketson Trumpour
    • Reference Number: 240.15
    • _TODO: Open
    • _UID: CB7F2DB65391491BB4951428656653E90109
    • Birth: Abt 1828, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Occupation: Jul 1857, Wellington, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; fisherman
    • Moved: Aft 1 Sep 1859, Wellington, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; from Hallowell Township
    • Census: 1861, Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada
    • Residence: 24 Jun 1866, Wellington, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
    • Census: 1871, Wellington, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
    • Census: 1 Jun 1880, Cape Vincent, Jefferson County, New York, United States

    Notes:

    _TODO:
    J. R. was in Wellington Village, District 59, Subdistrict B, page 10.

    Birth:
    Since he was age 33 in the 1861 census, his birth year was calculated as circa 1828.

    Occupation:
    "The following is a well-authenitcated statement of a "catch" which was doubtless a record breaker at the time when whitefish were plentiful in the lake. It occurred on an evening in July, 1857, when, as was the custom when a seine was to be hauled, men for miles around were gathered on the beach at Wellington. The owner of the seine, J. Rickerson Trumpour, had marshalled his men and the nets were in constant use until dawn, by which time forty thousand whitefish had been taken; the largest haul ever known to have been made at this particular place. W. H. Garrett, the grandson of Isaac, assisted on this memorable occasion, by taking out a boat and holding up the cork line of the seine, over which the net being full, the fish were escaping. His share was to be all the fish he wanted; and he filled his boat to the number of about seven hundred."

    Moved:
    Their daughter, Abigail Augusta Trumpour, was born on August 30, 1859 in Hallowell Township. Their next child, Mary Jane Trumpour, was born on October 25, 1861 in Wellington, Hillier Township.

    Census:
    He was enumerated as age 33, married, born in Canada, a member of the New Connection Methodist church, and a farmer. He was living with his wife, four daughters, and one son.

    Residence:
    J. R. and his wife had their seven daughters baptized on this day.

    Census:
    J. R. was age 42, born in Ontario, a Wesleyan Methodist, a farmer, and of "Dutch" ethnic origin.

    Census:
    John R. was enumerated as a white male, head of household, aged 52, and born in Canada. Both his parents were born in Canada. His occupation was fishing. He was living with his wife, Mary Ann 45, and children: Patience C. 22, Jennie M. [Mary Jane] 18, Sarah E. 16, Minta [Susan Araminta?] 14, and Richard 10. Also living with them was James Bingmin, a servant, age 32, who was born in Canada and worked in fishing.

    Family/Spouse: Mary Ann. Mary was born about 1834 in Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in Wellington, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Lydia Maria TRUMPOUR was born on 28 Mar 1851 in Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was christened on 24 Jun 1851 in Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; and died.
    2. Hannah Elizabeth TRUMPOUR was born on 17 May 1853 in Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was christened on 24 Jun 1866 in Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; and died.
    3. D. A. TRUMPOUR was born about 1855 in Canada West, Canada; and died.
    4. P.C. TRUMPOUR
    5. Abigail Augusta TRUMPOUR was born on 30 Aug 1859 in Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was christened on 24 Jun 1866 in Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; and died.
    6. Mary Jane TRUMPOUR was born on 25 Oct 1861 in Wellington, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was christened on 24 Jun 1866 in Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; and died.
    7. Sarah Emma TRUMPOUR was born on 5 Sep 1863 in Wellington, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was christened on 24 Jun 1866 in Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; and died.
    8. Minta TRUMPOUR was born on 4 Nov 1865 in Wellington, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was christened on 24 Jun 1866 in Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; and died.
    9. Richard TRUMPOUR was born about 1870 in Canada; and died.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  John TRUMPOUR was born on 27 Mar 1777 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 30 Mar 1777 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America (son of John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR and Elizabeth B?HR); and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Johannes Trumpour
    • Name: John Thompson
    • Reference Number: 240.1
    • Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
    • Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Residence: Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • _TODO: Open
    • _UID: 5FB3A432E9DF481CAAC21012220F6B619F80
    • Baptism: 30 Mar 1777, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; with his paternal grandparents, Johannes Trombor and his wife, Christine, as sponsors
    • Petition for land: Abt 17 May 1798, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Occupation: Abt 1810, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Marriage witness: 11 Jan 1838, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; to the marriage of his daughter, Lydia Jane Trumpour, to David McDonald
    • Land petition: 1840, Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; the Second Heir & Devisee Commission
    • Family history: Jul 1840, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Petition for land: Jul 1840, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; to the Heir and Devisee Commission
    • Petition for land: 16 Mar 1848, Picton, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; for Concession 9 lot 16 in Murray Township
    • Residence: 16 Mar 1848, Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada

    Notes:

    John married a Miss Lazier and settled on the High Shore.

    Residence:
    John lived at Green (Grassy) Point, Sophiasburgh.

    Residence:
    John and his wife lived on the "High Shore".

    _TODO:
    did John Trumpour have a land petition as SUE? Check index books to land. Check National Archives RG1 Manuscript Section.

    Petition for land:
    He petitioned as the son of John Trumpour UE Loyalist. He included a certification from John Howell, Clerk of the Peace, that said that he had taken the Oath of Allegiance. His petition was received June 6, 1798 and read in council on June 8, 1798. He was recommended for 200 acres with the warrant being issued on July 10, 1798.

    Occupation:
    Possibly it was John who kept the first public house in the Township.

    Marriage witness:
    [There were others named "John Trumpour" around at this time, but it was likely her father who was the witness.] The other marriage witness was William Stinson.

    Land petition:
    He was petitioning for his father's land grant of 200 acres lot 16 concession 9 in Murrary township, then in Newcastle District. The 12-page case file # 40-2360 of the Second Heir & Devisee Commission was from the Archives of Ontario MS 657 microfilm reel 67, microfilm copy made by the Family History Library # 1,314,447, digital file 8345265 with images of microfilm 1,314,447 on FamilySearch, not indexed. Accessed on January 9, 2019.

    Family history:
    John Trumpour Junior petitioned at this time for his father's land in Murray to the Heir and Devisee Committee - as his father's eldest son and heir-at-law.

    Petition for land:
    This was referred to in his petition in 1848 for the property in Murray Township.

    Petition for land:
    He petitioned to get the Patent for concession 9, lot 16 in Murray Township. He had been assigned this land as his father's heir at law and oldest son by the Heir and Devisee Commission in July 1840 in claim 349. Originally the lot had been awarded to his father John Trumpour in July 1797 as 200 acres of Family Land and 142 acres ungranted. However, neither John Senior or John Junior had made any improvements according to the inspection report of the local District Agent, so the Crown Land Department in Montreal decided that John should not get the land title. They were going to sell it to John B. McColl who had petitioned to buy the land.

    Residence:
    He lived here at the time he petitioned for the land in Murray Township.

    John married Mary SOLMES. Mary (daughter of Nathaniel SOLMES and Lydia) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Mary SOLMES (daughter of Nathaniel SOLMES and Lydia); and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Reference Number: 240.1*
    • Will: Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; with registration numbers Book 166, Grant 152, Registration 276
    • _TODO: Open
    • _UID: C0EFF10616124FA3A89E39AB41840F4D0B56

    Notes:

    _TODO:
    Mary (Solmes) TRUMPOUR. Reference: book 166, grant 152, registration 276. Hallowell Township. Index microfilm: FHL microfilm # 0,815,127. Can't find this in yellow index.

    Children:
    1. James TRUMPOUR was born in 1811 in Upper Canada, Canada; died in 1886 in Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.
    2. Gilbert TRUMPOUR was born in 1814; died in 1876 in Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.
    3. Samuel Solmes TRUMPOUR was born in 1824 in Upper Canada, Canada; died on 21 Sep 1899 in Picton, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.
    4. Lydia Jane TRUMPOUR and died.
    5. 1. John R. TRUMPOUR was born about 1828 in Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in Wellington, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR was born on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America (son of Johannes TRUMPOUR and Christina FIERO); died in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Emigration: Dutchess County, New York, United States
    • Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; in Roblin's Mills Cemetery
    • Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; in Top of the Hill Cemetery
    • Land: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Military: Ulster County, New York, United States
    • Name: Haunts Trumpour
    • Name: Horatio Trumpour
    • Name: Johannes Trombauer
    • Name: Johannes Trumpour
    • Reference Number: 480.0
    • Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _UID: 4390B42F1F2F4200AD7BC96D9A441E9E3E92
    • Baptism sponsors: 10 Mar 1754, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; were Johannes Maul and wife Elisabeth Tromboor
    • Family: 10 Mar 1754, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; The baptism date conflicts with the baptism of sister Christina on May 26 1754
    • Politics: Abt 1775, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Military: 1777, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Family: Abt 1784, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Moved: Abt 1784, Upper Canada, Canada; from Lower Canada
    • Immigration: 1784, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Immigration: 1784, Lower Canada, Canada; from New York
    • Immigration: 17 May 1784, Sorel, Lower Canada, Canada
    • Residence: Aft 1784, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Baptismal sponsor: 1786, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; with his wife, Elizabeth Bohr, to a baptism in Katsbaan Church
    • Loyalist: 1790
    • Land grant: 24 Jan 1791, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; of lot 42 Concession 2 West of the Carrying Place, 200 acres
    • Petition for land: 26 Jan 1791, Kingston, Frontenac County, Upper Canada, Canada; for land in Ninth Township
    • Petition for land: 26 Jan 1791, Kingston, Frontenac County, Upper Canada, Canada; No. 497
    • Petition for land: Jul 1797, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; for family lands and for ungranted lands
    • Petition for land: 10 Jul 1797, Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Designation: 29 Jan 1807, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; as a "U. E. Loyalist" in the petition of his daughter, Tina Curlett, when applying for a land grant
    • Family history: Abt 1812, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada

    Notes:

    The 'three daughters [of John] married James, Meyer, and Richard Osborne, respectively, and settled in Sophiasburgh".

    Emigration:
    John and his brother, Paul, "came originally from Dutchess county, NY, and are undoubtedly of Dutch extraction".

    Military:
    "He belonged to the 1st Regiment of Ulster Militia in the Revolutionary War (see Brink, History of Saugerties)."

    Land petition:
    Richard Arless Flint found John Trumpour's petition for land in RG1, Manuscript Section, Public Archives of Canada, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, on November 17, 1971.

    Land:
    "Green Point was formerly called Grassy Point. John Trumpour was the first settler there and kept a Public House, the first in the Township."

    Burial:
    [Since there were approximately 9 tombstones and footstones in this cemetery that were illegible, John Trumpour and his wife could be buried there.]

    Burial:
    John could be buried in the Top of the Hill cemetery. This burying ground "was located on County Road 15 (concession 1, SWGP, lot 40 (County Road 15) however nothing remains at the site. Permission was apparently received to build a house upon the property, and this still stands." The Wanamakers recorded 3 burials here. It is believed that the stones were transferred to Glenwood Cemetery, Picton.

    Religion:
    "At one time nearly all of the family [Trumpour] belonged to the Society of Friends".

    Residence:
    John's house at Grassy Point was recorded in Hans Waltimeyer's diary in 1797 as being a place where people stayed and where the Militia trained annually. In 1799, Waltimeyer mentions that Grassy Point used to be an Indian village. "Even though Trumpour's house is here now, they still come occasionally to stay a while".

    _TODO:
    baptism c. 1754

    _TODO:
    Married Elizabeth Baar (Beer, B?r) c. 1775

    _TODO:
    Trumpour. typewritten manuscript, no index; ref - Fidelity, volume 6, no 9. Check reference. Is this at Toronto Reference Library?

    _TODO:
    by E. Keith Fitzgerald; from OGS $ 25.00; ref: Fidelity, volume 22, no. 6, Sept 2000. This might be "Ontario People: 1796-1803". AFHS 971.3 FITZ

    _TODO:
    "Inventing the Loyalists: the Ontario Loyalist tradition and the creation of the usable pasts" by Norman Knowles. 244 pages. $ 18.95 plus $ 4.25 postage; Ref: Toronto Tree, volume 29, issue 4, July/August 1998. Copy at OGS Library, North York.

    _TODO:
    "New York Genealogical & Biographical Record". OGS Library has volumes 105 to 107; ref: Families, vol 17, no 1, 1978

    _TODO:
    FHL microfilm # 1,403,568 - Township Papers for Sophiasburgh - up to page 1305, and rest - # 1,403,569.

    _TODO:
    3 volumes and Research Guide to Loyalist Ancestors. 1990. Check for Trumpour, Redner, Cole.

    _TODO:
    Ivy Trumpour is active with the Edmonton Branch U.E.L.A.C. Contacts are Cal or Vera Chisholm, Edmonton, 780-454-2635, vera@telusplanet.net. Ref: Relatively Speaking, Vol. 28, No. 4, November 2000, pages 4 and 5.

    _TODO:
    find land petition - proper source - add to Legacy

    _TODO:
    microfilm # 1630769. NAC # C-2833. Petition # T 6 / 23 - check T 6 / 3 too. March 17, 1804. John Trumpour UEL.

    _TODO:
    microfilm # 1630708. NAC # C-2484 ?. Petition # O 8 / 7. March 13, 1807. John Trumpour UEL, senior, in Sophiasburgh Township.

    _TODO:
    microfilm # 1630788. NAC # C-2956. Petition # W 14 / 18. April 1, 1824. John Trumpour [Trompour], in Sophiasburgh.

    _TODO:
    microfilm # 1630607. NAC # C-2050 ? Petition # H 14 / 159. June 22, 1825. John Trumpour UEL, in Sophiasburgh Township.

    _TODO:
    microfilm # 1630613. NAC # C-2097 ? Petition # H 22 / 20. October 10, 1839. John Trumpour UEL, deceased.

    _TODO:
    new "ue" pin. Buy at Branch Office.

    _TODO:
    Anglican Registers, 1787-1814 - St John's Church, Bath. Kingston, Ontario: Kingston Branch, OGS, 1980. R 929.37135 SAI. Ref: Chinook, Vol. 4, No. 4, Summer 1984. 105 pages. Authors: Loral & Mildred Wanamaker. "Part of ... publication (1976) called The Early Church Records of the Rev. John Langhorn and Rev. Robert McDowall." Catalogue: June 29, 2012.

    _TODO:
    Calgary Public Library, Central 4th Floor Humanities - reference. "An Annotated Nominal Roll of Butler's Rangers 1777-1784: with documentary sources" by William A. Smy. Friends of the Loyalist Collection at Brock University, 2004. 237 pages. ISBN: 0973538600 paperback. Catalogue: June 29, 2012.

    _TODO:
    John TRUMPOUR died sometime after 1811 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County.

    _TODO:
    See file folder in Trumpour files.

    _TODO:
    INDEX TO WILLS PROBATED: FRONTENAC COUNTY 1857-1973. Kingston, Kingston Branch, OGS, 1988. softcover, 160 pages. $22.00 from Kingston Branch. This was a "mammoth undertaking by volunteers over 10 years. The transcripts were taken from the original Abstract Indexes Register prior to their being moved from the Frontenac County Courthouse to the Archives of Ontario. Approx 18,000 names. Ref: Families, OGS, Volume 28, No. 1, 1989, page 56.

    _TODO:
    Lutheran papers from - re-read. In Quinte churches Lutheran.

    _TODO:
    book by George Schweitzer

    _TODO:
    what is the call number?

    _TODO:
    Family History Library microfilm for Sophiasburgh to find any Quinte family land instruments. Put on Land Abstracts Database.

    Baptism sponsors:
    Jones referenced the Loonenburg Lutheran Churchbook.

    Politics:
    He refused to sign "The Articles of the Association of Freeholders and Inhabitants of Ulster County, New York", and thus became a "Tory".

    Military:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "joined the British Army at New York in the year 1777, and in consequence suffered both in person and in property".

    Family:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

    Moved:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

    Immigration:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

    Immigration:
    John settled at Green Point, Sophiasburgh. It is said that he "came up the Bay of Quinte past the home of his brother [Paul] who had already located at Adolphustown".

    Immigration:
    John was at Sorel with Simon Cole. They had written to their families in Ulster County to meet them at Skenesborough. They asked and received passes, permission, and men to help them go to Skenesborough and get their families.

    Residence:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had purchased a lot of land in the County of Prince Edward on which he now resides, and has made large improvement on the same".

    Loyalist:
    John "of Sophiasburgh & Ameliasburgh" was listed as "A Loyalist within the British Lines at New York."

    Petition for land:
    "John Trumpour, late of Esopus in the State of New York, prays to be admitted as a settler in this district and to have 200 acres of land assigned. He is brother to Paul Trumpour of Adolphus Town, settled under the Instructions of 1783 and, being otherwise a person of good character, a certificate is granted him for 200 acres and the oath of allegiance administered."

    Petition for land:
    John petitioned for land as a Loyalist and asked for land in the Ninth Township [Murray Township?]. He said that he was "always firmly attached to the British Government and Constitution" and "has come to this settlement with a view to become an inhabitant of it".

    Petition for land:
    This was referred to in the petition by his son, John Trumpour Junior, in 1848 for the property in Murray Township.

    Petition for land:
    John petitioned for more land as Lord Dorchester's bounty and 50 acres for each member of his family making up 600 acres. He included an affidavit from Peter Van Alstine, Justice of the Peace, saying that John had taken the Oath that the contents of the petition were "true in substance and matter of fact". The Committee replied that John had to "state the number of children which he had in this province previous to 1789".

    Designation:
    Tina's petition says that "your petitioner is the daughter of John Trumpour Senr. of the Township of Sophiasburgh, a U. E. Loyalist".

    Family history:
    "The story is told that when Robert [Curlett] joined the American army his father-in-law, John Trumpour, a dedicated United Empire Loyalist, was so upset that he disowned the Curlett family and influenced the Government to expropriate Robert's land. To date, we have not been able to confirm or refute this story. However, circumstantial evidence tends to refute it. The four sons of Robert Emmet [Curlett] all stayed in the Green Point area. The second son, John [Curlett] lived on land close to where Robert's distillery was said to have been and on land owned by his grandfather."

    John married Elizabeth B?HR in 1773 in New York, British Colonies in America. Elizabeth (daughter of Hermannus B?R and Maria Eva) was born on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Elizabeth B?HR was born on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America (daughter of Hermannus B?R and Maria Eva); died in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Name: Elisabetha B
    • Name: Elisabetha Beer
    • Name: Elizabeth Beer
    • Name: Elizabeth Bohr
    • Reference Number: 481.0
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _UID: 355087E688174F6A818FC16F9FB1CDBE65C6
    • Birth: 1756, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Baptism: 3 Mar 1757, Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 3 Mar 1757, Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America

    Notes:

    Burial:
    Elizabeth is likely buried at the Top of the Hill cemetery on concession 1, SWGP, lot 40. There are no longer any stones there.

    _TODO:
    baptism c. 1756

    _TODO:
    Elizabeth (Bahr) TRUMPOUR died sometime after 1800 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County.

    Baptism:
    The sponsors were Wilhelm and Christna Behr.

    Notes:

    Marriage:
    "Several of the missing marriages were probably entered in some of the long-missing Reformed churchbooks started by Pastor Joh: Friederich Hager."

    Children:
    1. Betsey TRUMPOUR was born in 1774 in New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1820 in Northumberland County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    2. William TRUMPOUR was born in 1775 in New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    3. 2. John TRUMPOUR was born on 27 Mar 1777 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 30 Mar 1777 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    4. Sarah TRUMPOUR was born on 24 Jan 1780 in New York, British Colonies in America; died on 28 Dec 1835 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried on 30 Dec 1835 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    5. Paul TRUMPOUR was born in 1781 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 14 Jul 1782 in Rhinebeck, Dutchess County, New York, United States; died on 2 Apr 1855 in Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was buried on 6 Apr 1855 in Wellington, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada.
    6. Christina TRUMPOUR was born in 1785; died in 1839 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    7. Catherine TRUMPOUR was born in 1787; died in 1824.
    8. Deborah TRUMPOUR was born in 1792; died on 15 Sep 1852 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was buried in Sep 1852 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada.

  3. 6.  Nathaniel SOLMES and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: CEC505DFD2D34A14A014FC6136C14E3A0ACF
    • Residence: Abt 1795, Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada

    Notes:

    Residence:
    His son, Nathaniel Solmes, was born around this time.

    Nathaniel married Lydia. Lydia and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Lydia and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Miss Ricketson
    • _UID: 5F0DCA423AA640DE973CD3C8D35711C6E5B0

    Notes:

    Name:
    [She may have been Lydia Ricketson.]

    Children:
    1. 3. Mary SOLMES and died.
    2. Sarah SOLMES was born about 1790; died in 1874 in Ontario, Canada.
    3. Samuel SOLMES was born about 1795 in Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada; and died.
    4. Meribeth SOLMES and died.
    5. Richard SOLMES and died.
    6. Gilbert SOLMES and died.
    7. Jane SOLMES was born about Mar 1790; died on 6 Sep 1856; was buried on 7 Sep 1856 in Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Johannes TRUMPOUR was born on 5 Mar 1719 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 12 Apr 1719 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America (son of Johann Niclaus TRUMPOUR and Magdalena STIER); died in 1785 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1785 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Baptism sponsors: were Johannes Emerich and his wife Margretha
    • Land: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; in the neighbourhood of his original farm
    • Name: Johannes Tromphouder
    • Occupation: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; farmer on his father's farm near the Katsbaan Church
    • Reference Number: 960.0
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _UID: 4D5B7CC83FD54105AD053E57405F6C0AA298
    • Family: 1719, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 5 Mar 1719, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Born: 5 Mar 1719, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 5 Apr 1719, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Land: 1761, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Will: 3 Mar 1783, Ulster County, New York, United States; prepared
    • Burial: 1785, Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; in Old Trumpbour Cemetery, Asbury
    • Probate: 28 Jun 1785, New York, United States

    Notes:

    Baptism sponsors:
    Henry Z. Jones Jr. recorded these sponsors from the West Camp Lutheran Churchbooks.

    _TODO:
    baptism c. 1719

    _TODO:
    Who kept marriage records in 1740s? What church records are there for New York? Get a New York research book from AFHS Library.

    _TODO:
    burial in 1785

    _TODO:
    "Records of Guardianship 1691-1815" by Holland Society of New York; F127.N6 Toronto Branch, UELA library; ref: Fidelity, vol 19, no. 6, May 1997

    _TODO:
    See file folder "Trumpour - Church, Kingston, Ulster Co" in Trumpour files.

    _TODO:
    See list of publications by Arthur Kelly in file "USA: New York - Palatines". Also were on CD. Are they now on Ancestry?

    Family:
    He was the 8th of 9 children.

    Land:
    "Beginning in 1761, Johannes was involved in a legal fight with the city of Kingston, New York. Johannes and another man petitioned the governor for a grant of 2000 acres of land, as recompense for running the line between Albany and Ulster Counties. A few months later, the Corporation of Kingston, for some reason, filed a complaint against the grant. The two men answered it, and in return, the Corporation of Kingston filed a new petition. However, it does appear that they got the grant, for Johannes is later reported as owning lands in the area for which he was petitioning."

    Will:
    Jones said that the will was "Fernow Wills #1752.

    Johannes married Christina FIERO in 1739 in New York, British Colonies in America. Christina (daughter of Valentin F?HRER and Catharina SCHRAMM) was born on 23 Dec 1721 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 25 Dec 1721 in Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Christina FIERO was born on 23 Dec 1721 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 25 Dec 1721 in Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America (daughter of Valentin F?HRER and Catharina SCHRAMM); died in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Christina Fiere
    • Name: Christina Fuhrer
    • Name: Christina Vier
    • Reference Number: 961.0
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _UID: 628A5794514C44BE8661CF092534E71489D2
    • Baptism: 25 Dec 1721, Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Burial: 1785, Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; in Old Trumpbour Cemetery, Asbury

    Notes:

    The will of Vallentyn Fierer of the Catsbaen, Albany County dated July 14, 1764 and probated February 10, 1770 mentioned "daughter Christina - wife of Johannes Trumpbour".

    _TODO:
    baptised c. 1720

    _TODO:
    burial c. 1790

    Baptism:
    The sponsors were Hans Nieukerk and Christina Muller.

    Notes:

    Marriage:
    "Several of the missing marriages were probably entered in some of the long-missing Reformed churchbooks started by Pastor Joh: Friederich Hager."

    Children:
    1. Nicholaus TRUMPOUR was born in 1741 in Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 26 Jul 1741 in Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1785.
    2. Catharina TRUMPOUR was born on 7 Mar 1743 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 4 Apr 1743 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 2 Jan 1820.
    3. Maria TRUMPOUR was born in 1745; was christened on 7 May 1745 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    4. Jacob TRUMPOUR was born in 1748; was christened on 26 Dec 1748 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 11 Apr 1824 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was buried on 13 Apr 1824 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America.
    5. Anna TRUMPOUR was born on 11 May 1751 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    6. Christina TRUMPOUR was born in 1754; was christened on 26 May 1754 in Red Hook, Dutchess County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    7. 4. John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR was born on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    8. Paul TRUMPOUR was born on 31 May 1757 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 31 May 1757 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 27 Mar 1813 in Upper Canada, Canada; was buried on 29 Mar 1813 in Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    9. Valentin Fiere TRUMPOUR was born in 1762 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 21 Oct 1762 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 20 Feb 1830.
    10. Zacharias TRUMPOUR was born in 1765 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.

  3. 10.  Hermannus B?R was born about 24 Oct 1706 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was christened on 24 Oct 1706 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany (son of Jacob B?R and Anna Gela SIEBEL); and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Hernannus Behr
    • Reference Number: 962.0
    • _UID: 05D5CFB5BD354FE393FA483BA857D5F65C0C
    • Baptism: 24 Oct 1706, Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
    • List: 1711, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America

    Notes:

    Baptism:
    The sponsor was Hermannus Bruder.

    List:
    The 1710/1711 winter census of Palatines at West Camp listed "Elisab. Bayherin: one woman and one boy under 8 years".

    Hermannus married Maria Eva on 5 May 1747 in New York, United States. Maria was born in United States; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Maria Eva was born in United States; and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Anna Maria Eva
    • Name: Maria Eva Marten
    • Reference Number: 963.0
    • _UID: 8B234A20F13540F3B8D0C3CD6CB62EBE97F6

    Children:
    1. 5. Elizabeth B?HR was born on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.



Existing Site