Family History Research: by Lorna Flint Laughton

Catherine TRUMPOUR

Female 1787 - 1824  (37 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Catherine TRUMPOUR was born in 1787 (daughter of John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR and Elizabeth B?HR); died in 1824.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Elizabeth Trumpour
    • Name: Tremis Trumpour
    • Name: Trennie Trumpour
    • Reference Number: 240.3
    • Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
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    • _UID: FEFAA17D265F4280BE9027A69A84032AC3CA
    • Education: 29 Jan 1807, Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Land petition: 29 Jan 1807, Hallowell Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Land: 13 Mar 1807, Upper Canada, Canada; granted by Order in Council
    • Petition for land: 13 Mar 1807, York, York County, Upper Canada, Canada; was read "In Council"
    • Land: 28 Mar 1807, York, York County, Upper Canada, Canada; entered in Land Book G page 291

    Notes:

    Residence:
    Trennie lived in Sophiasburgh.

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    did Elizabeth Trumpour or Elizabeth Osburne have a land petition as DUE? Check index books to land. Check National Archives RG1 Manuscript Section.

    Education:
    When Catharine petitioned for land on this date, she signed her petition with an "X". She was not able to write.

    Land petition:
    She petitioned for 200 acres as the daughter of John Trumpour Senior, a U.E. Loyalist. Stephen Conger, Clerk of the Peace, attested that she had made her oath to him and that she signed the petition in his presence.

    Land:
    "Warrant R50 sent to the Attorney General 28th March 1807".

    Family/Spouse: James OSBORNE. James (son of Jacobus OSBORNE) was born in 1782; died in 1862. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Elizabeth OSBORNE and died.
    2. Austin OSBORNE and died.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR was born on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America (son of Johannes TRUMPOUR and Christina FIERO); died in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Emigration: Dutchess County, New York, United States
    • Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; in Roblin's Mills Cemetery
    • Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; in Top of the Hill Cemetery
    • Land: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Military: Ulster County, New York, United States
    • Name: Haunts Trumpour
    • Name: Horatio Trumpour
    • Name: Johannes Trombauer
    • Name: Johannes Trumpour
    • Reference Number: 480.0
    • Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
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    • _UID: 4390B42F1F2F4200AD7BC96D9A441E9E3E92
    • Baptism sponsors: 10 Mar 1754, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; were Johannes Maul and wife Elisabeth Tromboor
    • Family: 10 Mar 1754, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; The baptism date conflicts with the baptism of sister Christina on May 26 1754
    • Politics: Abt 1775, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Military: 1777, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Family: Abt 1784, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Moved: Abt 1784, Upper Canada, Canada; from Lower Canada
    • Immigration: 1784, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Immigration: 1784, Lower Canada, Canada; from New York
    • Immigration: 17 May 1784, Sorel, Lower Canada, Canada
    • Residence: Aft 1784, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Baptismal sponsor: 1786, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; with his wife, Elizabeth Bohr, to a baptism in Katsbaan Church
    • Loyalist: 1790
    • Land grant: 24 Jan 1791, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; of lot 42 Concession 2 West of the Carrying Place, 200 acres
    • Petition for land: 26 Jan 1791, Kingston, Frontenac County, Upper Canada, Canada; for land in Ninth Township
    • Petition for land: 26 Jan 1791, Kingston, Frontenac County, Upper Canada, Canada; No. 497
    • Petition for land: Jul 1797, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; for family lands and for ungranted lands
    • Petition for land: 10 Jul 1797, Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Designation: 29 Jan 1807, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; as a "U. E. Loyalist" in the petition of his daughter, Tina Curlett, when applying for a land grant
    • Family history: Abt 1812, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada

    Notes:

    The 'three daughters [of John] married James, Meyer, and Richard Osborne, respectively, and settled in Sophiasburgh".

    Emigration:
    John and his brother, Paul, "came originally from Dutchess county, NY, and are undoubtedly of Dutch extraction".

    Military:
    "He belonged to the 1st Regiment of Ulster Militia in the Revolutionary War (see Brink, History of Saugerties)."

    Land petition:
    Richard Arless Flint found John Trumpour's petition for land in RG1, Manuscript Section, Public Archives of Canada, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, on November 17, 1971.

    Land:
    "Green Point was formerly called Grassy Point. John Trumpour was the first settler there and kept a Public House, the first in the Township."

    Burial:
    [Since there were approximately 9 tombstones and footstones in this cemetery that were illegible, John Trumpour and his wife could be buried there.]

    Burial:
    John could be buried in the Top of the Hill cemetery. This burying ground "was located on County Road 15 (concession 1, SWGP, lot 40 (County Road 15) however nothing remains at the site. Permission was apparently received to build a house upon the property, and this still stands." The Wanamakers recorded 3 burials here. It is believed that the stones were transferred to Glenwood Cemetery, Picton.

    Religion:
    "At one time nearly all of the family [Trumpour] belonged to the Society of Friends".

    Residence:
    John's house at Grassy Point was recorded in Hans Waltimeyer's diary in 1797 as being a place where people stayed and where the Militia trained annually. In 1799, Waltimeyer mentions that Grassy Point used to be an Indian village. "Even though Trumpour's house is here now, they still come occasionally to stay a while".

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    baptism c. 1754

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    Married Elizabeth Baar (Beer, B?r) c. 1775

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    Trumpour. typewritten manuscript, no index; ref - Fidelity, volume 6, no 9. Check reference. Is this at Toronto Reference Library?

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    by E. Keith Fitzgerald; from OGS $ 25.00; ref: Fidelity, volume 22, no. 6, Sept 2000. This might be "Ontario People: 1796-1803". AFHS 971.3 FITZ

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    "Inventing the Loyalists: the Ontario Loyalist tradition and the creation of the usable pasts" by Norman Knowles. 244 pages. $ 18.95 plus $ 4.25 postage; Ref: Toronto Tree, volume 29, issue 4, July/August 1998. Copy at OGS Library, North York.

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    "New York Genealogical & Biographical Record". OGS Library has volumes 105 to 107; ref: Families, vol 17, no 1, 1978

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    FHL microfilm # 1,403,568 - Township Papers for Sophiasburgh - up to page 1305, and rest - # 1,403,569.

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    3 volumes and Research Guide to Loyalist Ancestors. 1990. Check for Trumpour, Redner, Cole.

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    Ivy Trumpour is active with the Edmonton Branch U.E.L.A.C. Contacts are Cal or Vera Chisholm, Edmonton, 780-454-2635, vera@telusplanet.net. Ref: Relatively Speaking, Vol. 28, No. 4, November 2000, pages 4 and 5.

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    find land petition - proper source - add to Legacy

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    microfilm # 1630769. NAC # C-2833. Petition # T 6 / 23 - check T 6 / 3 too. March 17, 1804. John Trumpour UEL.

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    microfilm # 1630708. NAC # C-2484 ?. Petition # O 8 / 7. March 13, 1807. John Trumpour UEL, senior, in Sophiasburgh Township.

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    microfilm # 1630788. NAC # C-2956. Petition # W 14 / 18. April 1, 1824. John Trumpour [Trompour], in Sophiasburgh.

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    microfilm # 1630607. NAC # C-2050 ? Petition # H 14 / 159. June 22, 1825. John Trumpour UEL, in Sophiasburgh Township.

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    microfilm # 1630613. NAC # C-2097 ? Petition # H 22 / 20. October 10, 1839. John Trumpour UEL, deceased.

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    new "ue" pin. Buy at Branch Office.

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    Anglican Registers, 1787-1814 - St John's Church, Bath. Kingston, Ontario: Kingston Branch, OGS, 1980. R 929.37135 SAI. Ref: Chinook, Vol. 4, No. 4, Summer 1984. 105 pages. Authors: Loral & Mildred Wanamaker. "Part of ... publication (1976) called The Early Church Records of the Rev. John Langhorn and Rev. Robert McDowall." Catalogue: June 29, 2012.

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    Calgary Public Library, Central 4th Floor Humanities - reference. "An Annotated Nominal Roll of Butler's Rangers 1777-1784: with documentary sources" by William A. Smy. Friends of the Loyalist Collection at Brock University, 2004. 237 pages. ISBN: 0973538600 paperback. Catalogue: June 29, 2012.

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    John TRUMPOUR died sometime after 1811 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County.

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    See file folder in Trumpour files.

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    INDEX TO WILLS PROBATED: FRONTENAC COUNTY 1857-1973. Kingston, Kingston Branch, OGS, 1988. softcover, 160 pages. $22.00 from Kingston Branch. This was a "mammoth undertaking by volunteers over 10 years. The transcripts were taken from the original Abstract Indexes Register prior to their being moved from the Frontenac County Courthouse to the Archives of Ontario. Approx 18,000 names. Ref: Families, OGS, Volume 28, No. 1, 1989, page 56.

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    Lutheran papers from - re-read. In Quinte churches Lutheran.

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    what is the call number?

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    Baptism sponsors:
    Jones referenced the Loonenburg Lutheran Churchbook.

    Politics:
    He refused to sign "The Articles of the Association of Freeholders and Inhabitants of Ulster County, New York", and thus became a "Tory".

    Military:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "joined the British Army at New York in the year 1777, and in consequence suffered both in person and in property".

    Family:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

    Moved:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

    Immigration:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

    Immigration:
    John settled at Green Point, Sophiasburgh. It is said that he "came up the Bay of Quinte past the home of his brother [Paul] who had already located at Adolphustown".

    Immigration:
    John was at Sorel with Simon Cole. They had written to their families in Ulster County to meet them at Skenesborough. They asked and received passes, permission, and men to help them go to Skenesborough and get their families.

    Residence:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had purchased a lot of land in the County of Prince Edward on which he now resides, and has made large improvement on the same".

    Loyalist:
    John "of Sophiasburgh & Ameliasburgh" was listed as "A Loyalist within the British Lines at New York."

    Petition for land:
    "John Trumpour, late of Esopus in the State of New York, prays to be admitted as a settler in this district and to have 200 acres of land assigned. He is brother to Paul Trumpour of Adolphus Town, settled under the Instructions of 1783 and, being otherwise a person of good character, a certificate is granted him for 200 acres and the oath of allegiance administered."

    Petition for land:
    John petitioned for land as a Loyalist and asked for land in the Ninth Township [Murray Township?]. He said that he was "always firmly attached to the British Government and Constitution" and "has come to this settlement with a view to become an inhabitant of it".

    Petition for land:
    This was referred to in the petition by his son, John Trumpour Junior, in 1848 for the property in Murray Township.

    Petition for land:
    John petitioned for more land as Lord Dorchester's bounty and 50 acres for each member of his family making up 600 acres. He included an affidavit from Peter Van Alstine, Justice of the Peace, saying that John had taken the Oath that the contents of the petition were "true in substance and matter of fact". The Committee replied that John had to "state the number of children which he had in this province previous to 1789".

    Designation:
    Tina's petition says that "your petitioner is the daughter of John Trumpour Senr. of the Township of Sophiasburgh, a U. E. Loyalist".

    Family history:
    "The story is told that when Robert [Curlett] joined the American army his father-in-law, John Trumpour, a dedicated United Empire Loyalist, was so upset that he disowned the Curlett family and influenced the Government to expropriate Robert's land. To date, we have not been able to confirm or refute this story. However, circumstantial evidence tends to refute it. The four sons of Robert Emmet [Curlett] all stayed in the Green Point area. The second son, John [Curlett] lived on land close to where Robert's distillery was said to have been and on land owned by his grandfather."

    John married Elizabeth B?HR in 1773 in New York, British Colonies in America. Elizabeth (daughter of Hermannus B?R and Maria Eva) was born on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Elizabeth B?HR was born on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America (daughter of Hermannus B?R and Maria Eva); died in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Name: Elisabetha B
    • Name: Elisabetha Beer
    • Name: Elizabeth Beer
    • Name: Elizabeth Bohr
    • Reference Number: 481.0
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    • _UID: 355087E688174F6A818FC16F9FB1CDBE65C6
    • Birth: 1756, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Baptism: 3 Mar 1757, Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 3 Mar 1757, Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America

    Notes:

    Burial:
    Elizabeth is likely buried at the Top of the Hill cemetery on concession 1, SWGP, lot 40. There are no longer any stones there.

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    Elizabeth (Bahr) TRUMPOUR died sometime after 1800 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County.

    Baptism:
    The sponsors were Wilhelm and Christna Behr.

    Notes:

    Marriage:
    "Several of the missing marriages were probably entered in some of the long-missing Reformed churchbooks started by Pastor Joh: Friederich Hager."

    Children:
    1. Betsey TRUMPOUR was born in 1774 in New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1820 in Northumberland County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    2. William TRUMPOUR was born in 1775 in New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    3. John TRUMPOUR was born on 27 Mar 1777 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 30 Mar 1777 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    4. Sarah TRUMPOUR was born on 24 Jan 1780 in New York, British Colonies in America; died on 28 Dec 1835 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried on 30 Dec 1835 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    5. Paul TRUMPOUR was born in 1781 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 14 Jul 1782 in Rhinebeck, Dutchess County, New York, United States; died on 2 Apr 1855 in Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was buried on 6 Apr 1855 in Wellington, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada.
    6. Christina TRUMPOUR was born in 1785; died in 1839 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    7. 1. Catherine TRUMPOUR was born in 1787; died in 1824.
    8. Deborah TRUMPOUR was born in 1792; died on 15 Sep 1852 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was buried in Sep 1852 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Johannes TRUMPOUR was born on 5 Mar 1719 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 12 Apr 1719 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America (son of Johann Niclaus TRUMPOUR and Magdalena STIER); died in 1785 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1785 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Baptism sponsors: were Johannes Emerich and his wife Margretha
    • Land: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; in the neighbourhood of his original farm
    • Name: Johannes Tromphouder
    • Occupation: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; farmer on his father's farm near the Katsbaan Church
    • Reference Number: 960.0
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    • _UID: 4D5B7CC83FD54105AD053E57405F6C0AA298
    • Family: 1719, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 5 Mar 1719, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Born: 5 Mar 1719, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 5 Apr 1719, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Land: 1761, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Will: 3 Mar 1783, Ulster County, New York, United States; prepared
    • Burial: 1785, Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; in Old Trumpbour Cemetery, Asbury
    • Probate: 28 Jun 1785, New York, United States

    Notes:

    Baptism sponsors:
    Henry Z. Jones Jr. recorded these sponsors from the West Camp Lutheran Churchbooks.

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    Who kept marriage records in 1740s? What church records are there for New York? Get a New York research book from AFHS Library.

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    burial in 1785

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    "Records of Guardianship 1691-1815" by Holland Society of New York; F127.N6 Toronto Branch, UELA library; ref: Fidelity, vol 19, no. 6, May 1997

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    See file folder "Trumpour - Church, Kingston, Ulster Co" in Trumpour files.

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    See list of publications by Arthur Kelly in file "USA: New York - Palatines". Also were on CD. Are they now on Ancestry?

    Family:
    He was the 8th of 9 children.

    Land:
    "Beginning in 1761, Johannes was involved in a legal fight with the city of Kingston, New York. Johannes and another man petitioned the governor for a grant of 2000 acres of land, as recompense for running the line between Albany and Ulster Counties. A few months later, the Corporation of Kingston, for some reason, filed a complaint against the grant. The two men answered it, and in return, the Corporation of Kingston filed a new petition. However, it does appear that they got the grant, for Johannes is later reported as owning lands in the area for which he was petitioning."

    Will:
    Jones said that the will was "Fernow Wills #1752.

    Johannes married Christina FIERO in 1739 in New York, British Colonies in America. Christina (daughter of Valentin F?HRER and Catharina SCHRAMM) was born on 23 Dec 1721 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 25 Dec 1721 in Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Christina FIERO was born on 23 Dec 1721 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 25 Dec 1721 in Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America (daughter of Valentin F?HRER and Catharina SCHRAMM); died in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Christina Fiere
    • Name: Christina Fuhrer
    • Name: Christina Vier
    • Reference Number: 961.0
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    • _UID: 628A5794514C44BE8661CF092534E71489D2
    • Baptism: 25 Dec 1721, Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Burial: 1785, Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; in Old Trumpbour Cemetery, Asbury

    Notes:

    The will of Vallentyn Fierer of the Catsbaen, Albany County dated July 14, 1764 and probated February 10, 1770 mentioned "daughter Christina - wife of Johannes Trumpbour".

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    Baptism:
    The sponsors were Hans Nieukerk and Christina Muller.

    Notes:

    Marriage:
    "Several of the missing marriages were probably entered in some of the long-missing Reformed churchbooks started by Pastor Joh: Friederich Hager."

    Children:
    1. Nicholaus TRUMPOUR was born in 1741 in Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 26 Jul 1741 in Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1785.
    2. Catharina TRUMPOUR was born on 7 Mar 1743 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 4 Apr 1743 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 2 Jan 1820.
    3. Maria TRUMPOUR was born in 1745; was christened on 7 May 1745 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    4. Jacob TRUMPOUR was born in 1748; was christened on 26 Dec 1748 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 11 Apr 1824 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was buried on 13 Apr 1824 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America.
    5. Anna TRUMPOUR was born on 11 May 1751 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    6. Christina TRUMPOUR was born in 1754; was christened on 26 May 1754 in Red Hook, Dutchess County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    7. 2. John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR was born on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    8. Paul TRUMPOUR was born on 31 May 1757 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 31 May 1757 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 27 Mar 1813 in Upper Canada, Canada; was buried on 29 Mar 1813 in Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    9. Valentin Fiere TRUMPOUR was born in 1762 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 21 Oct 1762 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 20 Feb 1830.
    10. Zacharias TRUMPOUR was born in 1765 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.

  3. 6.  Hermannus B?R was born about 24 Oct 1706 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was christened on 24 Oct 1706 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany (son of Jacob B?R and Anna Gela SIEBEL); and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Hernannus Behr
    • Reference Number: 962.0
    • _UID: 05D5CFB5BD354FE393FA483BA857D5F65C0C
    • Baptism: 24 Oct 1706, Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
    • List: 1711, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America

    Notes:

    Baptism:
    The sponsor was Hermannus Bruder.

    List:
    The 1710/1711 winter census of Palatines at West Camp listed "Elisab. Bayherin: one woman and one boy under 8 years".

    Hermannus married Maria Eva on 5 May 1747 in New York, United States. Maria was born in United States; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Maria Eva was born in United States; and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Anna Maria Eva
    • Name: Maria Eva Marten
    • Reference Number: 963.0
    • _UID: 8B234A20F13540F3B8D0C3CD6CB62EBE97F6

    Children:
    1. 3. Elizabeth B?HR was born on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Johann Niclaus TRUMPOUR was born in 1676 in Germany; died in 1740 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Johann Niclaus Trombauer
    • Name: Niclas Trombauer
    • Name: Niclaus Drumbaur
    • Name: Nicolas Dromboer
    • Name: Nicolas Trompoor
    • Name: Nicolas Trumbauer
    • Name: Nicolaus Trombauer
    • Reference Number: 1920.0
    • Religion: Roman Catholic
    • Residence: Switzerland
    • Residence: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
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    • _TODO: Open
    • _UID: E7345A56463C4EDD89C0216BD968F313946D
    • Birth: Abt 1676, Germany
    • Birth: Abt 1678, Germany
    • Emigration: Abt 1709, London, England; from Germany
    • Immigration: 1709, London, England
    • Religion: Abt 1709, London, England; a Lutheran
    • Occupation: Bef Apr 1709, Germany; as a vinedresser and husbandman
    • Emigration: Abt Apr 1709, Germany; to England
    • Place: 3 May 1709, London, England
    • Immigration: 3 May 1709, London, England; from the Rhenish Palatinate of Germany
    • Residence: 1710, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; iup the Hudson River
    • Emigration: Jan 1710, London, England; to the American Colonies
    • Immigration: Aug 1710, United States
    • Residence: 4 Aug 1710, New York, United States
    • Residence: 4 Oct 1710, New York, United States
    • Residence: Abt 1711, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
    • Residence: 24 Jun 1711, New York, United States
    • Residence: 1710-1712, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Residence: 1710-1712, New York, United States
    • Residence: 24 Jun 1712, New York, United States
    • Naturalization: 8 Sep 1715, Kingston, Ulster County, New York, United States
    • Naturalization: 8 Sep 1715, New York, United States
    • Residence: Abt 1716, New York, United States; in Beckmansland
    • Residence: 1717, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; at Beckmansland
    • Residence: 1716-1717, New York, United States; Beekman's Land
    • Residence: 1728, Kingston, Ulster County, New York, United States
    • Residence: 1728, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
    • Residence: Abt 1728, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
    • Residence: Abt 1735, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Land: 3 Mar 1735, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; a farm near the Katsbaan Church

    Notes:

    Residence:
    Mark Trumpour received a letter from Mr. Charles Price of Pennsylvania about the origin of the Trumpour's. "Mr. Charles Price had received a letter from one Dr. Fritz Braun in Germany concening my letter. Apparently, this man's wife is a Trumbauer, and Mr. Price has done extensive digging around to find out where the family came from To date he had found no family on record in Germany with the name Trumbauer, so he believes that Switzerland many have been their homeland."

    _TODO:
    burial c. 1740

    _TODO:
    Immigration. Book "Protestant Exiles from France in the Reign of Louis XIV". By D. Agnew. 2nd edition; London: 1871-1874. Copy at U of T Robarts Library.

    _TODO:
    book "Protestant Exiles for France in the Reign of Louis XIV" by D. Agnew; 2nd edition; London: 1871-1874. Copy at U of T Robarts Library.

    _TODO:
    I think that Lois has "Palatine Families of Ireland" Second Edition. Henry Z. Jones Jr. Rockport, Maine, USA: Pciton Press, 1990. hardcover, 166 pages.

    Birth:
    Since he was about 33 years old on May 3, 1709, his birth year was calculated as circa 1676


    Birth:
    He was born in the Rhenish Palatinate.

    Emigration:
    The "London Lists" record Niclas Trombauer aged 33, his wife, a son aged 6, a daughter age 3, and a daughter 3/4 of a year old. He was a Roman Catholic, a husbandman and vinedresser. He was in the first seriese of arrivals in England.

    Immigration:
    He was listed in the first arrivals at London as "Niclas Trombauer, age 33, with his wife, a son aged 6, daughters aged 3 and 3/4, Catholic, husbandman and vinedresser".

    Religion:
    He was listed as a Roman Catholic. However, the British stipulated that all become Protestants.

    Emigration:
    About "13,000 Palatines moved down the Rhine to Rotterdam". From there, they "were embarked for London in six groups.

    Place:
    An entry on the "Board of Trade List" which recorded the First Party of Palatines in London, on May 3, 1709 included "Trumbauer, Niclas - wife, one son, two daughters".

    Immigration:
    "Niclaus Trombauer, with his wife, son, and two daughters, was in the first group of 852, arriving in London on May 3, 1709".

    Residence:
    This village was set up for the Palatines, so that they could make tar for the navy. However, this scheme did not work out. There was hardship and discontent among the Palatines.

    Emigration:
    About 3,000 out of the 13,000 left "in crowded ships with inadequate food".

    Immigration:
    The last ship arrived in New York in August 1710. Some Palatines went to North Carolina and some went to Pennsylvania. Many went to New York.

    Residence:
    The "Hunter List" of this date recorded 2 persons over 10 years of age and 3 persons under 10 years of age for the family of Niclaus Drumbaur.

    Residence:
    The "Hunter List" of this date recorded 1 person over 10 years of age and 3 persons under 10 years of age for the family of Niclaus Drumbaur.

    Residence:
    The "Hunter List" of this date recorded 3 persons over 10 years of age and 2 persons under 10 years of age for the family of Niclaus Drumbaur.

    Residence:
    He was listed on the Hunter Subsistence Rolls.

    Residence:
    There was no record of Johann Niclaus Trumpour on these lists.

    Residence:
    The "Hunter List" of this date recorded 3 persons over 10 years of age and 3 persons under 10 years of age for the family of Niclaus Drumbaur.

    Naturalization:
    [Might be September 9, 1715]

    Naturalization:
    According to the Kingston Naturalization records of September 8 and 9th, Nicolas Trompoor was naturalized.

    Residence:
    The "Simmendinger Register" recorded Nicolas Trumbohr and Magdalena with their children.

    Residence:
    He was listed as "Nicolaus Trumbohr and Magdelena with four children".

    Residence:
    The Simmendinger List of 1717 recorded "Trumbohr, Nicolaus, wife Magdalena and four children".

    Residence:
    "Nicolas Dromboer" was a freeholder.

    Residence:
    The "Ulster County Freeholders" list records Nicolas Dromboer as a freeholder of Kingston.

    Residence:
    He appeared in the Kingston Trustees Records, Book 2 pages 72-74.

    Residence:
    They lived on "a piece of land on the west side of the old King's Road from Kingston to Albany, near the Reformed Church".

    Johann married Magdalena STIER. Magdalena was born in Germany; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Magdalena STIER was born in Germany; and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Reference Number: 1921.0
    • _TODO: Open
    • _UID: DBB67A76A64A43DB9E82446271B095BFCA08
    • Immigration: 1709, London, England

    Notes:

    _TODO:
    burial c. 1750

    Immigration:
    She was listed in the first arrivals at London as "wife of Niclas Trombauer, Niclas Trombauer, age 33, with a son aged 6, and daughters aged 3 and 3/4. He was Catholic, husbandman and vinedresser".

    Children:
    1. Paulus TRUMPOUR was born in 1703 in Germany; and died.
    2. Christina TRUMPOUR was born on 2 Jun 1712; and died.
    3. Elizabeth TRUMPOUR was born on 17 Mar 1716; and died.
    4. Dietrich TRUMPOUR was born on 10 Mar 1718; was christened on 11 May 1718 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, United States; and died.
    5. 4. Johannes TRUMPOUR was born on 5 Mar 1719 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 12 Apr 1719 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1785 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1785 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States.
    6. Andreas TRUMPOUR was born in 1725; was christened on 15 Aug 1725 in Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1784.
    7. Agnes TRUMPOUR and died.
    8. Barbara TRUMPOUR and died.
    9. Dorothea TRUMPOUR and died.
    10. Johann Jacob TRUMPOUR and died.

  3. 10.  Valentin F?HRER was born in Germany (son of Johannes F?HRER and F?HRER); died in 1769 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Valedien F?hrer
    • Name: Valentin Fiere
    • Name: Vallentyn Fierer
    • Reference Number: 1922.0
    • Residence: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • _UID: FF69942B1BD04BB58D326E797DB3DA13D568
    • Naturalization: 9 Sep 1715, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
    • Will: 14 Jul 1764, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Probate: 10 Feb 1770, New York, British Colonies in America

    Notes:

    Residence:
    His farm was just north of Katsbaan where the Trumpour's lived.

    Naturalization:
    He was naturalized with his father, "Johannis F?hrer".

    Valentin married Catharina SCHRAMM before 25 Dec 1721 in New York, United States. Catharina (daughter of Henrich SCHRAMM and An Els KIFFEL) was born on 23 May 1700 in Wilnsdorf, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was christened on 23 May 1700 in Wilnsdorf, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Catharina SCHRAMM was born on 23 May 1700 in Wilnsdorf, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was christened on 23 May 1700 in Wilnsdorf, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany (daughter of Henrich SCHRAMM and An Els KIFFEL); and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Catharina Schram
    • Reference Number: 1923.0
    • _UID: 2CEABFEEB6BD47D9BF456CD275DAD8D69571
    • Baptism: 23 May 1700, Wilnsdorf, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany

    Notes:

    Baptism:
    The sponsors were Catharina, wife of Johann Ebert Siebel, and Johann Henrich Kiffel.

    Children:
    1. 5. Christina FIERO was born on 23 Dec 1721 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 25 Dec 1721 in Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States.

  5. 12.  Jacob B?R was born before 17 Nov 1678 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was christened on 17 Nov 1678 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany (son of Johannes B?R and Agnes); died in Oct-Dec 1710 in New York, United States.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Jacob Beer
    • Reference Number: 1924.0
    • _UID: 34A566E7A5B64198A8D0179F0359E2C78DE1
    • Baptism: 17 Nov 1678, Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
    • Residence: 25 Jan 1704, Niederndorff in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
    • Residence: 1708
    • Death: 1710, New York, United States
    • List: 1710, New York, United States; Hunter Subsistence Roll
    • List: Aug 1710, New York, United States; Hunter Subsistence Roll
    • List: Oct 1710, New York, United States; Hunter Subsistence Roll

    Notes:

    Baptism:
    The sponsor was Jacob Cuntz.

    Residence:
    He was married this day.

    Residence:
    An "Inhabitant List of 1708 of Oberfischbach" listed "Jacob B?r, his wife Gela, and son, Hermannus, aus dem Land (Out of the Country)".

    List:
    Jacob B?r was not listed in the December 1710 list. His wife was listed as "Jacob B?hr's widow".

    Death:
    He was listed in October 1710 but not in December 1710. His wife was listed as a widow in December 1710.

    List:
    Jacob B?r was listed.

    List:
    Jacob B?r was listed.

    Jacob married Anna Gela SIEBEL on 25 Jan 1704 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany. Anna (daughter of Hans Jacob SIEBEL and Catharina) was born about 15 Jun 1676 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was christened on 15 Jun 1676 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Anna Gela SIEBEL was born about 15 Jun 1676 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was christened on 15 Jun 1676 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany (daughter of Hans Jacob SIEBEL and Catharina); and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Elisabeth B?yherin
    • Reference Number: 1925.0
    • _UID: 80529381D0644C59B9486DA1EE0ADB1ABBA3
    • Baptism: 15 Jun 1676, Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
    • List: Dec 1710, New York, United States; Hunter Subsistence Roll
    • List: 1711, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Name: 1711, New York, United States

    Notes:

    Baptism:
    The sponsor was Gela, widow of Henrich Loos at Heusberg.

    List:
    Jacob B?r was not listed. His wife was listed as "Jacob B?hr's widow".

    Name:
    Jacob B?r's widow's name was "Elisabeth". [Did Anna Gela die? Did Jacob remarry?]

    List:
    The 1710/1711 winter census of Palatines at West Camp listed "Elisab. Bayherin: one woman and one boy under 8 years".

    Notes:

    Marriage:
    On 25 January 1704 "Jacob B?r, son of Johannes B?r from Niderndorff, married with Anna Gela, daughter of the late Hans Jacob Siebel from Oberfischbach".

    Children:
    1. Johann B?R was born about 15 Feb 1705 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was christened on 15 Feb 1705 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; died in 1705 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was buried in 1705 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany.
    2. 6. Hermannus B?R was born about 24 Oct 1706 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was christened on 24 Oct 1706 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; and died.



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