Johannes TRUMPOUR

Other Events and Attributes:

• Baptism sponsors: were Johannes Emerich and his wife Margretha
• Land: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; in the neighbourhood of his original farm
• Name: Johannes Tromphouder
• Occupation: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; farmer on his father's farm near the Katsbaan Church
• Reference Number: 960.0
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• _UID: 4D5B7CC83FD54105AD053E57405F6C0AA298
• Family: 1719, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
• Birth: 5 Mar 1719, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
• Born: 5 Mar 1719, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
• Birth: 5 Apr 1719, New York, British Colonies in America
• Land: 1761, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
• Will: 3 Mar 1783, Ulster County, New York, United States; prepared
• Burial: 1785, Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; in Old Trumpbour Cemetery, Asbury
• Probate: 28 Jun 1785, New York, United States

Notes:

Baptism sponsors:
Henry Z. Jones Jr. recorded these sponsors from the West Camp Lutheran Churchbooks.

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baptism c. 1719

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Who kept marriage records in 1740s? What church records are there for New York? Get a New York research book from AFHS Library.

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burial in 1785

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"Records of Guardianship 1691-1815" by Holland Society of New York; F127.N6 Toronto Branch, UELA library; ref: Fidelity, vol 19, no. 6, May 1997

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See file folder "Trumpour - Church, Kingston, Ulster Co" in Trumpour files.

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See list of publications by Arthur Kelly in file "USA: New York - Palatines". Also were on CD. Are they now on Ancestry?

Family:
He was the 8th of 9 children.

Land:
"Beginning in 1761, Johannes was involved in a legal fight with the city of Kingston, New York. Johannes and another man petitioned the governor for a grant of 2000 acres of land, as recompense for running the line between Albany and Ulster Counties. A few months later, the Corporation of Kingston, for some reason, filed a complaint against the grant. The two men answered it, and in return, the Corporation of Kingston filed a new petition. However, it does appear that they got the grant, for Johannes is later reported as owning lands in the area for which he was petitioning."

Will:
Jones said that the will was "Fernow Wills #1752.

Johannes married Christina FIERO in 1739 in New York, British Colonies in America. Christina (daughter of Valentin F?HRER and Catharina SCHRAMM) was born on 23 Dec 1721 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 25 Dec 1721 in Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Marriage:
"Several of the missing marriages were probably entered in some of the long-missing Reformed churchbooks started by Pastor Joh: Friederich Hager."

1. Nicholaus TRUMPOUR was born in 1741 in Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 26 Jul 1741 in Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1785.
2. Catharina TRUMPOUR was born on 7 Mar 1743 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 4 Apr 1743 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 2 Jan 1820.
3. Maria TRUMPOUR was born in 1745; was christened on 7 May 1745 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
4. Jacob TRUMPOUR was born in 1748; was christened on 26 Dec 1748 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 11 Apr 1824 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was buried on 13 Apr 1824 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America.
5. Anna TRUMPOUR was born on 11 May 1751 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
6. Christina TRUMPOUR was born in 1754; was christened on 26 May 1754 in Red Hook, Dutchess County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
7. John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR was born on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.
8. Paul TRUMPOUR was born on 31 May 1757 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 31 May 1757 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 27 Mar 1813 in Upper Canada, Canada; was buried on 29 Mar 1813 in Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada.
9. Valentin Fiere TRUMPOUR was born in 1762 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 21 Oct 1762 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 20 Feb 1830.
10. Zacharias TRUMPOUR was born in 1765 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Johann Niclaus Trombauer
• Name: Niclas Trombauer
• Name: Niclaus Drumbaur
• Name: Nicolas Dromboer
• Name: Nicolas Trompoor
• Name: Nicolas Trumbauer
• Name: Nicolaus Trombauer
• Reference Number: 1920.0
• Religion: Roman Catholic
• Residence: Switzerland
• Residence: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
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• _UID: E7345A56463C4EDD89C0216BD968F313946D
• Birth: Abt 1676, Germany
• Birth: Abt 1678, Germany
• Emigration: Abt 1709, London, England; from Germany
• Immigration: 1709, London, England
• Religion: Abt 1709, London, England; a Lutheran
• Occupation: Bef Apr 1709, Germany; as a vinedresser and husbandman
• Emigration: Abt Apr 1709, Germany; to England
• Place: 3 May 1709, London, England
• Immigration: 3 May 1709, London, England; from the Rhenish Palatinate of Germany
• Residence: 1710, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; iup the Hudson River
• Emigration: Jan 1710, London, England; to the American Colonies
• Immigration: Aug 1710, United States
• Residence: 4 Aug 1710, New York, United States
• Residence: 4 Oct 1710, New York, United States
• Residence: Abt 1711, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
• Residence: 24 Jun 1711, New York, United States
• Residence: 1710-1712, New York, British Colonies in America
• Residence: 1710-1712, New York, United States
• Residence: 24 Jun 1712, New York, United States
• Naturalization: 8 Sep 1715, Kingston, Ulster County, New York, United States
• Naturalization: 8 Sep 1715, New York, United States
• Residence: Abt 1716, New York, United States; in Beckmansland
• Residence: 1717, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; at Beckmansland
• Residence: 1716-1717, New York, United States; Beekman's Land
• Residence: 1728, Kingston, Ulster County, New York, United States
• Residence: 1728, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
• Residence: Abt 1728, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
• Residence: Abt 1735, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
• Land: 3 Mar 1735, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; a farm near the Katsbaan Church

Notes:

Residence:
Mark Trumpour received a letter from Mr. Charles Price of Pennsylvania about the origin of the Trumpour's. "Mr. Charles Price had received a letter from one Dr. Fritz Braun in Germany concening my letter. Apparently, this man's wife is a Trumbauer, and Mr. Price has done extensive digging around to find out where the family came from To date he had found no family on record in Germany with the name Trumbauer, so he believes that Switzerland many have been their homeland."

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burial c. 1740

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Immigration. Book "Protestant Exiles from France in the Reign of Louis XIV". By D. Agnew. 2nd edition; London: 1871-1874. Copy at U of T Robarts Library.

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book "Protestant Exiles for France in the Reign of Louis XIV" by D. Agnew; 2nd edition; London: 1871-1874. Copy at U of T Robarts Library.

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I think that Lois has "Palatine Families of Ireland" Second Edition. Henry Z. Jones Jr. Rockport, Maine, USA: Pciton Press, 1990. hardcover, 166 pages.

Birth:
Since he was about 33 years old on May 3, 1709, his birth year was calculated as circa 1676


Birth:
He was born in the Rhenish Palatinate.

Emigration:
The "London Lists" record Niclas Trombauer aged 33, his wife, a son aged 6, a daughter age 3, and a daughter 3/4 of a year old. He was a Roman Catholic, a husbandman and vinedresser. He was in the first seriese of arrivals in England.

Immigration:
He was listed in the first arrivals at London as "Niclas Trombauer, age 33, with his wife, a son aged 6, daughters aged 3 and 3/4, Catholic, husbandman and vinedresser".

Religion:
He was listed as a Roman Catholic. However, the British stipulated that all become Protestants.

Emigration:
About "13,000 Palatines moved down the Rhine to Rotterdam". From there, they "were embarked for London in six groups.

Place:
An entry on the "Board of Trade List" which recorded the First Party of Palatines in London, on May 3, 1709 included "Trumbauer, Niclas - wife, one son, two daughters".

Immigration:
"Niclaus Trombauer, with his wife, son, and two daughters, was in the first group of 852, arriving in London on May 3, 1709".

Residence:
This village was set up for the Palatines, so that they could make tar for the navy. However, this scheme did not work out. There was hardship and discontent among the Palatines.

Emigration:
About 3,000 out of the 13,000 left "in crowded ships with inadequate food".

Immigration:
The last ship arrived in New York in August 1710. Some Palatines went to North Carolina and some went to Pennsylvania. Many went to New York.

Residence:
The "Hunter List" of this date recorded 2 persons over 10 years of age and 3 persons under 10 years of age for the family of Niclaus Drumbaur.

Residence:
The "Hunter List" of this date recorded 1 person over 10 years of age and 3 persons under 10 years of age for the family of Niclaus Drumbaur.

Residence:
The "Hunter List" of this date recorded 3 persons over 10 years of age and 2 persons under 10 years of age for the family of Niclaus Drumbaur.

Residence:
He was listed on the Hunter Subsistence Rolls.

Residence:
There was no record of Johann Niclaus Trumpour on these lists.

Residence:
The "Hunter List" of this date recorded 3 persons over 10 years of age and 3 persons under 10 years of age for the family of Niclaus Drumbaur.

Naturalization:
[Might be September 9, 1715]

Naturalization:
According to the Kingston Naturalization records of September 8 and 9th, Nicolas Trompoor was naturalized.

Residence:
The "Simmendinger Register" recorded Nicolas Trumbohr and Magdalena with their children.

Residence:
He was listed as "Nicolaus Trumbohr and Magdelena with four children".

Residence:
The Simmendinger List of 1717 recorded "Trumbohr, Nicolaus, wife Magdalena and four children".

Residence:
"Nicolas Dromboer" was a freeholder.

Residence:
The "Ulster County Freeholders" list records Nicolas Dromboer as a freeholder of Kingston.

Residence:
He appeared in the Kingston Trustees Records, Book 2 pages 72-74.

Residence:
They lived on "a piece of land on the west side of the old King's Road from Kingston to Albany, near the Reformed Church".

Johann married Magdalena STIER. Magdalena was born in Germany; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 1921.0
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• _UID: DBB67A76A64A43DB9E82446271B095BFCA08
• Immigration: 1709, London, England

Notes:

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burial c. 1750

Immigration:
She was listed in the first arrivals at London as "wife of Niclas Trombauer, Niclas Trombauer, age 33, with a son aged 6, and daughters aged 3 and 3/4. He was Catholic, husbandman and vinedresser".