Family History Research: by Lorna Flint Laughton

John T. OSBORNE

Male 1809 - Yes, date unknown


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John T. OSBORNE was born in 1809 in Upper Canada, Canada (son of Richard OSBORNE and Sarah TRUMPOUR); and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: John Osborn
    • Occupation: Ontario, Canada
    • Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • _UID: B246CB42D69B46889B34DE22145D4E87598F
    • Birth: Abt 1810, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Residence: 7 Mar 1837, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Marriage witness: 6 Jan 1841, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; to the marriage of his sister, Abigail Osbourne, to John Wesley Roblin
    • Residence: 20 Feb 1844, Ameliasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada
    • Residence: 21 Sep 1845, Ameliasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada
    • Census: Abt 1851, Ameliasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada

    Notes:

    Military:
    "He was an enthusiast in military affairs and was out in the Mackenzie rebellion."

    Occupation:
    J. T. Osborne was a Justice of the Peace.

    Birth:
    Since he was to turn 43 on his next birthday when the 1851 census was taken around January 1852, his birth year was calculated as circa 1810.

    Census:
    He was enumerated as age 43, married, a farmer, and a Wesleyan Methodist. He was living with his wife, Sarah, their 7 children, and Martha Loveless, who was likely a servant.

    John married Sarah GREELEY on 7 Mar 1837 in Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada. Sarah (daughter of Jonathan GREELEY) was born about 1818 in Upper Canada, Canada; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Dr. Edward OSBORNE was born about 1839 in Upper Canada, Canada; and died.
    2. Jonathan Greeley OSBORNE was born about 1841 in Canada West, Canada; and died.
    3. Richard J. OSBORNE was born on 4 Jan 1843 in Ameliasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was christened on 20 Feb 1844 in Ameliasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; and died.
    4. Lydia Maria OSBORNE was born on 14 Jan 1845 in Ameliasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was christened on 21 Sep 1845 in Ameliasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; and died.
    5. Prof. Walter OSBORNE was born about 1849 in Canada West, Canada; and died.
    6. Walton OSBORNE was born about 1849 in Canada West, Canada; and died.
    7. Charles H. OSBORNE was born about 1851 in Canada West, Canada; and died.
    8. Horace Greeley OSBORNE and died.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Richard OSBORNE was born in 1768 in British Colonies in America (son of Jacobus OSBORNE); died on 26 Jul 1848 in Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was buried on 30 Jul 1848 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Death: Ameliasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada
    • Land: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; Green Point
    • Name: Richard Osborn
    • Name: Richard Osburn
    • Residence: Ameliasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • _UID: 0DF021FDFBFD4F4C895D2C5E4EC4A33D10A4
    • Birth: 1768, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 1770
    • Birth: 1770, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 28 Oct 1774, British Colonies in America
    • Moved: 1786, Upper Canada, Canada; from New York State
    • Petition for land: 25 Feb 1794, Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada; 223
    • Residence: 1811, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Land: Abt 1812
    • Military: 1812
    • Military: 1812, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; Prince Edward Militia
    • Burial: 26 Jul 1848, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; in the Roblin Family Cemetery

    Notes:

    Land:
    "He mainly divided his Green Point property among these daughters, when, shortly before his death, he went to live with his son, John T."

    Death:
    "It was while living on this farm, lots 92 and 93, 4th concession of Ameliasburgh, and which had been given by the Pioneer to his only son, John T. Osborne, that he met his death. One day in assisting his grandson with the cattle, a bull of the herd turned on the old man and crushed him against one of the outbuildings with such violence as to cause his death." The book ?i?Pioneer Life on the Bay of Quinte?/i? says that he died in 1852.

    Residence:
    Richard owned lots 92 and 93 of the 4th concession of Ameliasburgh.

    Birth:
    Since Richard died aged 84 in 1852, his birthdate would be calculated as circa 1768.

    Birth:
    Some notes give Richard's death as 1852 aged 84 years old. Was he born in 1770?

    Birth:
    Since he was age 16 in 1786, his birthdate would be calculated as circa 1770.

    Birth:
    Since he died on July 26, 1848 aged 73 years, 8 months and 28 days, his birth date was calculated as October 28, 1774.

    Moved:
    "It was in 1786, when Richard Osborne was sixteen years of age, ...".

    Petition for land:
    "Richard Osborn, being desirous to become a settler in this Province, prays for 200 acres of land. The Board finding him duly qualified to receive the same, grant it."

    Residence:
    His daughter, Lydia Osborne, was born around this time.

    Land:
    For military service, the Osborne's received "a further grant of two hundred acres".

    Military:
    "In 1812 he had to lay aside the ploughshare for the sword, and in the War of Defence was many times in action. during the progress of the war his house at Pleasant Bay was a rendezvous of the British officers while they were engaged in watching and directing the operations of their respective commands."

    Military:
    He was a Private in Captain Vanalstine's Company of the Prince Edward Militia. He served for 6 months in 1812.

    Buried:
    Richard was buried in Roblin Cemetery, Sophiasburgh.

    Richard married Sarah TRUMPOUR. Sarah (daughter of John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR and Elizabeth B?HR) was born on 24 Jan 1780 in New York, British Colonies in America; died on 28 Dec 1835 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried on 30 Dec 1835 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Sarah TRUMPOUR was born on 24 Jan 1780 in New York, British Colonies in America (daughter of John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR and Elizabeth B?HR); died on 28 Dec 1835 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried on 30 Dec 1835 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Maria
    • Name: Mary Trumpour
    • Reference Number: 240.5
    • Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
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    • _UID: 469D4FE7E29243B9A05C1281B40576ADF48A
    • Birth: 1772
    • Birth: 24 Jan 1780, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Death: 1822, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Burial: Abt 28 Dec 1835, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; in the Roblin Family Cemetery

    Notes:

    Residence:
    Sarah and her husband lived in Sophiasburgh.

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    did Sarah Trumpour or Sarah Osburne have a land petition as DUE? Check index books to land. Check National Archives RG1 Manuscript Section.

    Birth:
    Some notes give Sarah's death in 1822 at age 50 - born in 1772?

    Birth:
    Since "Mary" died on December 28, 1835 aged 55 years, 11 months and 4 days, her birth date was calculated as January 24, 1780.

    Death:
    "He had married Sarah Trumpour, the daughter of a United Empire Loyalist, who had died thirty years before in her fiftieth year." [This date and age are likely wrong.]

    Buried:
    Sarah was buried in Roblin Cemetery, Sophiasburgh.

    Children:
    1. Abigail OSBORNE and died.
    2. Martha OSBORNE and died.
    3. Catherine OSBORNE and died.
    4. Mary OSBORNE and died.
    5. Deborah OSBORNE and died.
    6. Elizabeth OSBORNE was born about 1805 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; and died.
    7. 1. John T. OSBORNE was born in 1809 in Upper Canada, Canada; and died.
    8. Lydia OSBORNE was born about 1811 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; and died.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Jacobus OSBORNE and died.
    Children:
    1. William OSBORNE and died.
    2. Abigail OSBORNE and died.
    3. Mary OSBORNE and died.
    4. Nathaniel OSBORNE was born in 1763 in Ridgefield, Bergen County, New Jersey, United States; and died.
    5. 2. Richard OSBORNE was born in 1768 in British Colonies in America; died on 26 Jul 1848 in Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was buried on 30 Jul 1848 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada.
    6. Nehemiah OSBORNE was born in Dec 1778 in Richfield, Nova Scotia, Canada; died on 9 May 1868 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in May 1868 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.
    7. James OSBORNE was born in 1782; died in 1862.

  2. 6.  John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR was born on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America (son of Johannes TRUMPOUR and Christina FIERO); died in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Emigration: Dutchess County, New York, United States
    • Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; in Roblin's Mills Cemetery
    • Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; in Top of the Hill Cemetery
    • Land: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Military: Ulster County, New York, United States
    • Name: Haunts Trumpour
    • Name: Horatio Trumpour
    • Name: Johannes Trombauer
    • Name: Johannes Trumpour
    • Reference Number: 480.0
    • Residence: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
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    • _UID: 4390B42F1F2F4200AD7BC96D9A441E9E3E92
    • Baptism sponsors: 10 Mar 1754, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; were Johannes Maul and wife Elisabeth Tromboor
    • Family: 10 Mar 1754, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; The baptism date conflicts with the baptism of sister Christina on May 26 1754
    • Politics: Abt 1775, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Military: 1777, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Family: Abt 1784, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Moved: Abt 1784, Upper Canada, Canada; from Lower Canada
    • Immigration: 1784, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Immigration: 1784, Lower Canada, Canada; from New York
    • Immigration: 17 May 1784, Sorel, Lower Canada, Canada
    • Residence: Aft 1784, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Baptismal sponsor: 1786, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; with his wife, Elizabeth Bohr, to a baptism in Katsbaan Church
    • Loyalist: 1790
    • Land grant: 24 Jan 1791, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; of lot 42 Concession 2 West of the Carrying Place, 200 acres
    • Petition for land: 26 Jan 1791, Kingston, Frontenac County, Upper Canada, Canada; for land in Ninth Township
    • Petition for land: 26 Jan 1791, Kingston, Frontenac County, Upper Canada, Canada; No. 497
    • Petition for land: Jul 1797, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; for family lands and for ungranted lands
    • Petition for land: 10 Jul 1797, Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Designation: 29 Jan 1807, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; as a "U. E. Loyalist" in the petition of his daughter, Tina Curlett, when applying for a land grant
    • Family history: Abt 1812, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada

    Notes:

    The 'three daughters [of John] married James, Meyer, and Richard Osborne, respectively, and settled in Sophiasburgh".

    Emigration:
    John and his brother, Paul, "came originally from Dutchess county, NY, and are undoubtedly of Dutch extraction".

    Military:
    "He belonged to the 1st Regiment of Ulster Militia in the Revolutionary War (see Brink, History of Saugerties)."

    Land petition:
    Richard Arless Flint found John Trumpour's petition for land in RG1, Manuscript Section, Public Archives of Canada, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, on November 17, 1971.

    Land:
    "Green Point was formerly called Grassy Point. John Trumpour was the first settler there and kept a Public House, the first in the Township."

    Burial:
    [Since there were approximately 9 tombstones and footstones in this cemetery that were illegible, John Trumpour and his wife could be buried there.]

    Burial:
    John could be buried in the Top of the Hill cemetery. This burying ground "was located on County Road 15 (concession 1, SWGP, lot 40 (County Road 15) however nothing remains at the site. Permission was apparently received to build a house upon the property, and this still stands." The Wanamakers recorded 3 burials here. It is believed that the stones were transferred to Glenwood Cemetery, Picton.

    Religion:
    "At one time nearly all of the family [Trumpour] belonged to the Society of Friends".

    Residence:
    John's house at Grassy Point was recorded in Hans Waltimeyer's diary in 1797 as being a place where people stayed and where the Militia trained annually. In 1799, Waltimeyer mentions that Grassy Point used to be an Indian village. "Even though Trumpour's house is here now, they still come occasionally to stay a while".

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    baptism c. 1754

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    Married Elizabeth Baar (Beer, B?r) c. 1775

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    Trumpour. typewritten manuscript, no index; ref - Fidelity, volume 6, no 9. Check reference. Is this at Toronto Reference Library?

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    by E. Keith Fitzgerald; from OGS $ 25.00; ref: Fidelity, volume 22, no. 6, Sept 2000. This might be "Ontario People: 1796-1803". AFHS 971.3 FITZ

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    "Inventing the Loyalists: the Ontario Loyalist tradition and the creation of the usable pasts" by Norman Knowles. 244 pages. $ 18.95 plus $ 4.25 postage; Ref: Toronto Tree, volume 29, issue 4, July/August 1998. Copy at OGS Library, North York.

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    "New York Genealogical & Biographical Record". OGS Library has volumes 105 to 107; ref: Families, vol 17, no 1, 1978

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    FHL microfilm # 1,403,568 - Township Papers for Sophiasburgh - up to page 1305, and rest - # 1,403,569.

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    3 volumes and Research Guide to Loyalist Ancestors. 1990. Check for Trumpour, Redner, Cole.

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    Ivy Trumpour is active with the Edmonton Branch U.E.L.A.C. Contacts are Cal or Vera Chisholm, Edmonton, 780-454-2635, vera@telusplanet.net. Ref: Relatively Speaking, Vol. 28, No. 4, November 2000, pages 4 and 5.

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    find land petition - proper source - add to Legacy

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    microfilm # 1630769. NAC # C-2833. Petition # T 6 / 23 - check T 6 / 3 too. March 17, 1804. John Trumpour UEL.

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    microfilm # 1630708. NAC # C-2484 ?. Petition # O 8 / 7. March 13, 1807. John Trumpour UEL, senior, in Sophiasburgh Township.

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    microfilm # 1630788. NAC # C-2956. Petition # W 14 / 18. April 1, 1824. John Trumpour [Trompour], in Sophiasburgh.

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    microfilm # 1630607. NAC # C-2050 ? Petition # H 14 / 159. June 22, 1825. John Trumpour UEL, in Sophiasburgh Township.

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    microfilm # 1630613. NAC # C-2097 ? Petition # H 22 / 20. October 10, 1839. John Trumpour UEL, deceased.

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    new "ue" pin. Buy at Branch Office.

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    Anglican Registers, 1787-1814 - St John's Church, Bath. Kingston, Ontario: Kingston Branch, OGS, 1980. R 929.37135 SAI. Ref: Chinook, Vol. 4, No. 4, Summer 1984. 105 pages. Authors: Loral & Mildred Wanamaker. "Part of ... publication (1976) called The Early Church Records of the Rev. John Langhorn and Rev. Robert McDowall." Catalogue: June 29, 2012.

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    Calgary Public Library, Central 4th Floor Humanities - reference. "An Annotated Nominal Roll of Butler's Rangers 1777-1784: with documentary sources" by William A. Smy. Friends of the Loyalist Collection at Brock University, 2004. 237 pages. ISBN: 0973538600 paperback. Catalogue: June 29, 2012.

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    John TRUMPOUR died sometime after 1811 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County.

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    See file folder in Trumpour files.

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    INDEX TO WILLS PROBATED: FRONTENAC COUNTY 1857-1973. Kingston, Kingston Branch, OGS, 1988. softcover, 160 pages. $22.00 from Kingston Branch. This was a "mammoth undertaking by volunteers over 10 years. The transcripts were taken from the original Abstract Indexes Register prior to their being moved from the Frontenac County Courthouse to the Archives of Ontario. Approx 18,000 names. Ref: Families, OGS, Volume 28, No. 1, 1989, page 56.

    _TODO:
    Lutheran papers from - re-read. In Quinte churches Lutheran.

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    book by George Schweitzer

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    what is the call number?

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    Family History Library microfilm for Sophiasburgh to find any Quinte family land instruments. Put on Land Abstracts Database.

    Baptism sponsors:
    Jones referenced the Loonenburg Lutheran Churchbook.

    Politics:
    He refused to sign "The Articles of the Association of Freeholders and Inhabitants of Ulster County, New York", and thus became a "Tory".

    Military:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "joined the British Army at New York in the year 1777, and in consequence suffered both in person and in property".

    Family:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

    Moved:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

    Immigration:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had "removed into the Province of Lower Canada in the year 1784 and afterwards into this Province with his wife and seven children".

    Immigration:
    John settled at Green Point, Sophiasburgh. It is said that he "came up the Bay of Quinte past the home of his brother [Paul] who had already located at Adolphustown".

    Immigration:
    John was at Sorel with Simon Cole. They had written to their families in Ulster County to meet them at Skenesborough. They asked and received passes, permission, and men to help them go to Skenesborough and get their families.

    Residence:
    In his petition for land on July 10, 1797, John stated that he had purchased a lot of land in the County of Prince Edward on which he now resides, and has made large improvement on the same".

    Loyalist:
    John "of Sophiasburgh & Ameliasburgh" was listed as "A Loyalist within the British Lines at New York."

    Petition for land:
    "John Trumpour, late of Esopus in the State of New York, prays to be admitted as a settler in this district and to have 200 acres of land assigned. He is brother to Paul Trumpour of Adolphus Town, settled under the Instructions of 1783 and, being otherwise a person of good character, a certificate is granted him for 200 acres and the oath of allegiance administered."

    Petition for land:
    John petitioned for land as a Loyalist and asked for land in the Ninth Township [Murray Township?]. He said that he was "always firmly attached to the British Government and Constitution" and "has come to this settlement with a view to become an inhabitant of it".

    Petition for land:
    This was referred to in the petition by his son, John Trumpour Junior, in 1848 for the property in Murray Township.

    Petition for land:
    John petitioned for more land as Lord Dorchester's bounty and 50 acres for each member of his family making up 600 acres. He included an affidavit from Peter Van Alstine, Justice of the Peace, saying that John had taken the Oath that the contents of the petition were "true in substance and matter of fact". The Committee replied that John had to "state the number of children which he had in this province previous to 1789".

    Designation:
    Tina's petition says that "your petitioner is the daughter of John Trumpour Senr. of the Township of Sophiasburgh, a U. E. Loyalist".

    Family history:
    "The story is told that when Robert [Curlett] joined the American army his father-in-law, John Trumpour, a dedicated United Empire Loyalist, was so upset that he disowned the Curlett family and influenced the Government to expropriate Robert's land. To date, we have not been able to confirm or refute this story. However, circumstantial evidence tends to refute it. The four sons of Robert Emmet [Curlett] all stayed in the Green Point area. The second son, John [Curlett] lived on land close to where Robert's distillery was said to have been and on land owned by his grandfather."

    John married Elizabeth B?HR in 1773 in New York, British Colonies in America. Elizabeth (daughter of Hermannus B?R and Maria Eva) was born on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 7.  Elizabeth B?HR was born on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America (daughter of Hermannus B?R and Maria Eva); died in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Burial: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada
    • Name: Elisabetha B
    • Name: Elisabetha Beer
    • Name: Elizabeth Beer
    • Name: Elizabeth Bohr
    • Reference Number: 481.0
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    • _UID: 355087E688174F6A818FC16F9FB1CDBE65C6
    • Birth: 1756, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Baptism: 3 Mar 1757, Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 3 Mar 1757, Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America

    Notes:

    Burial:
    Elizabeth is likely buried at the Top of the Hill cemetery on concession 1, SWGP, lot 40. There are no longer any stones there.

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    Elizabeth (Bahr) TRUMPOUR died sometime after 1800 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County.

    Baptism:
    The sponsors were Wilhelm and Christna Behr.

    Notes:

    Marriage:
    "Several of the missing marriages were probably entered in some of the long-missing Reformed churchbooks started by Pastor Joh: Friederich Hager."

    Children:
    1. Betsey TRUMPOUR was born in 1774 in New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1820 in Northumberland County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    2. William TRUMPOUR was born in 1775 in New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    3. John TRUMPOUR was born on 27 Mar 1777 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 30 Mar 1777 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    4. 3. Sarah TRUMPOUR was born on 24 Jan 1780 in New York, British Colonies in America; died on 28 Dec 1835 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried on 30 Dec 1835 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    5. Paul TRUMPOUR was born in 1781 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 14 Jul 1782 in Rhinebeck, Dutchess County, New York, United States; died on 2 Apr 1855 in Hillier Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was buried on 6 Apr 1855 in Wellington, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada.
    6. Christina TRUMPOUR was born in 1785; died in 1839 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    7. Catherine TRUMPOUR was born in 1787; died in 1824.
    8. Deborah TRUMPOUR was born in 1792; died on 15 Sep 1852 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada; was buried in Sep 1852 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Canada West, Canada.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  Johannes TRUMPOUR was born on 5 Mar 1719 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 12 Apr 1719 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America (son of Johann Niclaus TRUMPOUR and Magdalena STIER); died in 1785 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1785 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Baptism sponsors: were Johannes Emerich and his wife Margretha
    • Land: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; in the neighbourhood of his original farm
    • Name: Johannes Tromphouder
    • Occupation: Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; farmer on his father's farm near the Katsbaan Church
    • Reference Number: 960.0
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    • _UID: 4D5B7CC83FD54105AD053E57405F6C0AA298
    • Family: 1719, Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 5 Mar 1719, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Born: 5 Mar 1719, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Birth: 5 Apr 1719, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Land: 1761, Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Will: 3 Mar 1783, Ulster County, New York, United States; prepared
    • Burial: 1785, Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; in Old Trumpbour Cemetery, Asbury
    • Probate: 28 Jun 1785, New York, United States

    Notes:

    Baptism sponsors:
    Henry Z. Jones Jr. recorded these sponsors from the West Camp Lutheran Churchbooks.

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    _TODO:
    Who kept marriage records in 1740s? What church records are there for New York? Get a New York research book from AFHS Library.

    _TODO:
    burial in 1785

    _TODO:
    "Records of Guardianship 1691-1815" by Holland Society of New York; F127.N6 Toronto Branch, UELA library; ref: Fidelity, vol 19, no. 6, May 1997

    _TODO:
    See file folder "Trumpour - Church, Kingston, Ulster Co" in Trumpour files.

    _TODO:
    See list of publications by Arthur Kelly in file "USA: New York - Palatines". Also were on CD. Are they now on Ancestry?

    Family:
    He was the 8th of 9 children.

    Land:
    "Beginning in 1761, Johannes was involved in a legal fight with the city of Kingston, New York. Johannes and another man petitioned the governor for a grant of 2000 acres of land, as recompense for running the line between Albany and Ulster Counties. A few months later, the Corporation of Kingston, for some reason, filed a complaint against the grant. The two men answered it, and in return, the Corporation of Kingston filed a new petition. However, it does appear that they got the grant, for Johannes is later reported as owning lands in the area for which he was petitioning."

    Will:
    Jones said that the will was "Fernow Wills #1752.

    Johannes married Christina FIERO in 1739 in New York, British Colonies in America. Christina (daughter of Valentin F?HRER and Catharina SCHRAMM) was born on 23 Dec 1721 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 25 Dec 1721 in Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 13.  Christina FIERO was born on 23 Dec 1721 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 25 Dec 1721 in Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America (daughter of Valentin F?HRER and Catharina SCHRAMM); died in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; was buried in 1791 in Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Christina Fiere
    • Name: Christina Fuhrer
    • Name: Christina Vier
    • Reference Number: 961.0
    • _TODO: Open
    • _TODO: Open
    • _UID: 628A5794514C44BE8661CF092534E71489D2
    • Baptism: 25 Dec 1721, Kingston, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America
    • Burial: 1785, Saugerties Township, Ulster County, New York, United States; in Old Trumpbour Cemetery, Asbury

    Notes:

    The will of Vallentyn Fierer of the Catsbaen, Albany County dated July 14, 1764 and probated February 10, 1770 mentioned "daughter Christina - wife of Johannes Trumpbour".

    _TODO:
    baptised c. 1720

    _TODO:
    burial c. 1790

    Baptism:
    The sponsors were Hans Nieukerk and Christina Muller.

    Notes:

    Marriage:
    "Several of the missing marriages were probably entered in some of the long-missing Reformed churchbooks started by Pastor Joh: Friederich Hager."

    Children:
    1. Nicholaus TRUMPOUR was born in 1741 in Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 26 Jul 1741 in Kingston, Ulster County, Province of New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1785.
    2. Catharina TRUMPOUR was born on 7 Mar 1743 in New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 4 Apr 1743 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 2 Jan 1820.
    3. Maria TRUMPOUR was born in 1745; was christened on 7 May 1745 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    4. Jacob TRUMPOUR was born in 1748; was christened on 26 Dec 1748 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 11 Apr 1824 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was buried on 13 Apr 1824 in West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America.
    5. Anna TRUMPOUR was born on 11 May 1751 in Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    6. Christina TRUMPOUR was born in 1754; was christened on 26 May 1754 in Red Hook, Dutchess County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.
    7. 6. John (Johannes, Hans, Haunts) TRUMPOUR was born on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 10 Mar 1754 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    8. Paul TRUMPOUR was born on 31 May 1757 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 31 May 1757 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 27 Mar 1813 in Upper Canada, Canada; was buried on 29 Mar 1813 in Adolphustown Township, Lennox and Addington County, Upper Canada, Canada.
    9. Valentin Fiere TRUMPOUR was born in 1762 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 21 Oct 1762 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; died on 20 Feb 1830.
    10. Zacharias TRUMPOUR was born in 1765 in Katsbaan, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America; and died.

  3. 14.  Hermannus B?R was born about 24 Oct 1706 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; was christened on 24 Oct 1706 in Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany (son of Jacob B?R and Anna Gela SIEBEL); and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Hernannus Behr
    • Reference Number: 962.0
    • _UID: 05D5CFB5BD354FE393FA483BA857D5F65C0C
    • Baptism: 24 Oct 1706, Oberfischbach in Freudenberg, Siegen-Wittgenstein, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
    • List: 1711, West Camp, Ulster County, New York, British Colonies in America

    Notes:

    Baptism:
    The sponsor was Hermannus Bruder.

    List:
    The 1710/1711 winter census of Palatines at West Camp listed "Elisab. Bayherin: one woman and one boy under 8 years".

    Hermannus married Maria Eva on 5 May 1747 in New York, United States. Maria was born in United States; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 15.  Maria Eva was born in United States; and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Anna Maria Eva
    • Name: Maria Eva Marten
    • Reference Number: 963.0
    • _UID: 8B234A20F13540F3B8D0C3CD6CB62EBE97F6

    Children:
    1. 7. Elizabeth B?HR was born on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; was christened on 3 Mar 1757 in Loonenburg, New York, British Colonies in America; died in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada; was buried in 1840 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, Canada.



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